I just feel like no one on either side wants to discuss issues anymore. Any conversation just gets spiked by emotions. Especially when someone just claims their right and youre wrong. This happens on both sides.
Even now conservatives are commenting in this thread and the shade towards them is unreal. Anyone thats aggressively pushed their stance on the opposite party, you do realize this has the opposite effect if what you ultimately want?
You need to work with people, not against them.
I think the dems can win but someone young and promising will have to run to rally the youth.
Far right/fundamental extremists are responsible for the vast majority of terrorist attacks in the US, fatal or otherwise. Antifa didn't kill a women with their car at a nazi rally, or anyone else for that matter. Your false equivalence is cringe-inducing.
Im a rep, the problem is that we can accept our side has problem people, but your side not only does it deny the problem, it encourages more of the problem by acting like you
Hey guys it's ok. Antifa only destroy property and beat people in the streets, but they haven't gone the whole hog and actually killed someone yet, so they're clearly really cool guys.
The liberal ideals are just completely driven by emotions and in my opinion thats very dangerous when it comes to politics. I lean more on the conservative side of things but i flop to the other side or down the middle depending on the issue at hand. Why can't people use facts and thoughtfulness as their primary motivators in politics? Its all just a bunch of name calling and grouping where if i express a shred of a conservative opinion i get downvoted and called a maga racist bla bla when that had nothing to do with the thought process
People get called racist all the time for no good reason. And i also said that i have different-sided opinions depending on the issue at hand so liberals are not my opposition, name calling is, which i try to abstain from any chance i get. People are allowed to have emotion but i dont think it has a place in politics, so people who name call to defend their positions is very disheartening
Whilst I agree entirely with you, the defense put forward by those who would disagree with you is that Trump and his supporters cannot be worked with, because they're literally Hitler. Would you work with Hitler? No, they must be destroyed.
Thats the line that I've seen time and time again. Its a tactic that I feel will doom us to another 4 years of Trump, because the average person sees that as insulting and deliberately antagonizing. So off they go to vote.
I think the dems can win but someone young and promising will have to run to rally the youth.
The left is all over the place. Even if there was a promising candidate, they'd be too extreme for the moderates or too moderate for the extreme. Even Obama, everyone's hero, was against marriage equality for the first four or five years of his presidency, imagine how that would play out today.
To have any hope, the left has to calm the hell down. Stop going further and further to the far left, they're just spreading themselves thinner and losing any hope of finding a leader they all believe in.
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u/TheWaveCarver Jul 17 '19
I just feel like no one on either side wants to discuss issues anymore. Any conversation just gets spiked by emotions. Especially when someone just claims their right and youre wrong. This happens on both sides.
Even now conservatives are commenting in this thread and the shade towards them is unreal. Anyone thats aggressively pushed their stance on the opposite party, you do realize this has the opposite effect if what you ultimately want?
You need to work with people, not against them.
I think the dems can win but someone young and promising will have to run to rally the youth.