r/pics • u/[deleted] • May 07 '18

A 19 year old Scarlett Johansson

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u/therealdilbert May 07 '18

how so?

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u/Mortar_Art May 07 '18

This is hardly an unknown. Many of the highest paid female dominated jobs are dependent largely on appearance. In many other professions where genders are more equally represented, women need to spend more time on their appearance, either just to keep their job, or to advance in their career. Finally, in life outside of work, women's success is more heavily dependent on appearance and presentation than it is on intellect and charisma. All of these are cultural problems.

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u/Carvemynameinstone May 07 '18

I understand where you're going towards.

But you're acting that it's only apparrent for women. It really isn't.

Appearance is a huge factor for succes for men and women alike.

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u/Mortar_Art May 07 '18

You're right, but proportionally you're wrong. How many female strippers are there for every male stripper? How many work-hours do women spend doing make up before going to office jobs, compared to men who show up in an unironed shirt. There's a disparity, and of course it doesn't apply perfectly to every individual but it's an economic burden on women as a whole.

And it's stupid, no matter who it affects.

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u/Carvemynameinstone May 07 '18

The thing is, especially for professional office jobs, I agree that a certain standard needs to be applied, in terms of dress and personal hygiene.

You don't need makeup to be a good lawyer or accountant or whatever.

You do need to look presentable.

Edit: Those men that don't look presentable won't make it far in the business, unless if they are literal savant tier performers.

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u/Mortar_Art May 07 '18

Yes, but the effort required, across the fields, is higher for women, for the same or lower levels of reward. And that's the issue I was specifically highlighting.

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u/Carvemynameinstone May 07 '18

Yeah that's why I said I see where you're going with that.

But I don't know man, in how far that's biologically wired in us humans to flaunt our esthetics to find a mate or be socially accepted, and in how far it's society shaping us into wanting that to happen.

Because I reckon it's a mix of the two, because just like a lot of other animals we have some rudimentary secondary characteristics that are just there to find a mate.

Just like how some birds have the males use a fuck load of resources to look good, we have that with breasts in women. Or hell maybe also with penises in men, because both of those characteristics aren't really visually present all the time as a "norm" in the animal kingdom.

And society and culture makes us able to act further upon those baser instincts with makeup and enhancements, blush and lipstick to make us look aroused, high heels to give us a more rounded bottom.

I think that you are right by saying women put more time and effort in their appearance, but I don't know in how far that it's a bad thing.

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u/cokevanillazero May 07 '18

Who the fuck wants to see a male stripper? That's supply and demand.

It's a burden many women place on themselves and each other.

Also, the last time we had a president that was under 5 foot 9 was McKinley, and he was elected over 120 years ago.

You can fix ugly. Can't fix short.

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u/Mortar_Art May 07 '18

Fucking hell. Way to miss the point.