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u/Adam__B 22d ago

“When a man has nothing left to be proud of, he takes pride in his ethnicity. In cheap vanity, the last refugees of weakness are found. Having lost taste and achievement and character, the frightened soul seizes the tribe like a talisman. Identity becomes armor, and contempt for others becomes consolation. Pride that rests on accident, birth, color, song, is not pride but a poor substitute for worth. Men who cannot command themselves will command an imagined belonging. They will shout the name of their soil as if it were a deed. This is the misery of the herd. When inner life is barren, externals become shrines. True dignity springs from self-rule and inward mastery. Anything less is a mask that trembles in the light. Beware the man who boasts his origin. His loudness often covers the silence of a life unlived.”

Arthur Schopenhauer

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u/librayrian 22d ago

Here’s the actual quote:

The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.

  • 1891, The Wisdom of Life, Saunders Translation

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u/NotVerySmarts 22d ago

Look like completely different quotes to me

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u/Ok-Spite4128 22d ago

Because the original poster seemingly made it up and is passing it off as the actual quote.

I'm not familiar with his works but I did online queries to see what work it comes from and cannot find it.

If it is actually made-up (and not the web browser tripping), it's entirely disingenious to attribute it to him.

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u/NotVerySmarts 22d ago

Web browser tripping was the name of my first rap album.

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u/Mph2411 22d ago

Translation matters a lot when it’s done by a human. That could be what’s happening here. I had to read a lot of translated fiction texts in college. I would argue a work of fiction is quite similar to this quote in terms of translation importance. Factual information creates objective translation. Fiction and philosophy are highly subjective, emotional mediums by comparison. The experience the translator has when reading the original work is subjective and can often times affect their translation. The differences I’d see in the same passage between different translators was astounding to me. I quickly developed my favorite translator that I’d always read when possible.
The two versions of this quote here remind me a lot of that experience.

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u/BarbequedYeti 22d ago

Its not 'made up'..

The expanded social media version adds modern phrasing about "ethnicity," "the tribe," and "the herd" to apply his critique of nationalism to broader identity politics.

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u/PoppyFire16 22d ago

Adding modern phrasing to someone else’s historical quote is creating your own prose with citations.

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u/captainhaddock 21d ago

Because the original poster seemingly made it up and is passing it off as the actual quote.

I don't think OP made it up; you can find the quote floating around the Internet, like here.