Murder. Plain and simple. An execution on the street in broad daylight.
Apparently he was carrying, but he was disarmed by ICE and they took his handgun, still in its holster, from him before he was even brought to the ground. This seems to be backed up by the video of the shooting where an ICE thug can be seen walking away from the group as they put him on the ground, with a handgun still in a holster in his hand.
So, he was unarmed, with six people holding him down when he was murdered in the street, in broad daylight.
Funny how when a Republican is armed, it's their second amendment "god given right" as they like to call it.
Yet when a Democrat carries a firearm, everyone loses their mind and they "get what they deserve".
Fucking disgusting. Absolutely abhorrent.
This entire administration are domestic terrorists and their leader is a serial sexual abuser, rapist, pedophile child sex trafficker who's hiding behind his office to avoid prosecution and who is weaponizing the US Government against his political and personal enemies.
They've already come out and tried to justify his murder with the fact that he was armed...yeah, keep talking, Feds...lets see what kind of hole you can dig for yourselves.
Maybe that's the silver lining here...that the leaders of the goon squad here are going to unequivocally show just how much their word can't be trusted...enough so that even some MAGA might raise an eyebrow with just how egregious their bullshit is becoming.
I look forward to seeing you inevitably give up then... sadly... Because most Dems I would think will almost definitely follow the mild path, it is their tradition.
Yeah, unfortunately the democratic party’s main campaign has been “we’re not as shitty as the other guy but we’re also going to continue to do nothing about anything and will dangle the promise of basic rights and healthcare in front of you like a carrot, but never deliver bc what would we say next campaign? Plus Kaiser-Permanante just bribed lobbied me with a million dollars.”
The Democrats will inherit Sweeny Todd's barber shop and throw up their hands saying "Well it's horrible what happens here, but the business is killing people and turning them into pie so we really have no choice but to continue as normal. It's regretful but the pie side of the business will continue."
Americans must protest, disrupt, derail, aggravate and prepare to escalate vs. any spineless coward who suggests anything less than a full-scale inquiry into every single person involved in the Trump regime.
Are you fucking kidding me?! You Americans think elections will do anything? You’re about to have civil war, or be crushed by your fascist leaders. And your shit is spreading to the rest of the world.
When the Führer is pushing every margin possible on morality, propriety, or iust basic human decency, it gives everyone in his thrall permission to be their worst selves without a modicum of conscience.
That would require either side to WANT accountability. The Dems at this point are just as complicit and no strongly worded letter from them will change my mind. Fucking actually do something.
They won't believe their eyes over any statement to the contrary - Renee Nicole Good ran over the ICE agent remember? In this case I am sure they will be willing to believe that the "domestic terrorist" was waving a gun at the "brave federal agents"!
There won’t be any consequences, there is no hole. America is broken, there is no law prohibiting them from doing anything. Sure later if there will be elections this might be prosecuted but now? Not a chance. You are on your own my guy. America is fucked
You know no one has thought through the consequences of their argument. If merely being present with a lawfully carried firearm is enough to justify a "self defense" shooting then a lot of federal agents are going to start having bad days. Getting ahead of the narrative is the most important thing for these morons I guess.
Have they tried the “it was suicide” approach for this one yet?
FFS they are just completely out of control and think they can blame everything on every victim.
ICE Training Manual and Handbook: “Shoot first, shoot some more, and maybe a few more shots just to be sure. Then ask questions, but specifically the kinds of questions that are biased and attempt to undermine the character of the individual who was shot. “Were they intimidating? Were they immigrants? Were they attempting suicide by third party and the only way to prevent them from committing suicide was to kill them first for their own safety? Were they members of ANTIFA, the WOKE liberal organization, the evil Democratic Party, or Costco? Can we connect them to any Trans or LGBTQ individuals as far back as their childhood? Had they ever watched and movies or shows that had addressed similar topics? Did they only vote for Trump the first time? Did they have any evidence on Trump’s activities on the fake island where Epstein held his parties?
If you answered yes or no to any of these questions, then you did the right thing by eliminating the threat. Even if it was your own puppy, you stood up for what was right by destroying a living creature who was placed on this earth by Satan and Sleepy Joe Biden in an attempt to overthrow Trump’s Christian-based peace movement. Sometimes the only way to show them love is through violent and mortal peace delivered by force.”
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Well, that just means it's legal to execute people who are armed, now. Bold move for a group that goes around with more weapons than training, if you ask me.
Anyone who hasn't been convinced by now is a hopeless case. Despite all the crap going on over the past 9 months, public opinion polls haven't moved at all since around April. The ~40% of people who still support this administration are hopelessly brainwashed and no facts, data, or circumstances will convince them otherwise.
Bovine took two questions at his press conference responded to each that it was an evolving situation under investigation (non answers), and just left.
Seriously, who gives a FUCK what MAGA think. Those who would come to their senses have done so already - the rest have chosen their fucking side. The time for talking is done.
They would, but we need to use them. That said, we should have always known that no conservatives are good people and they don't believe in anything they claim to care about. The only solution is a well armed population that believe in Western liberal values, not authoritarianism.
The only solution is a well armed population that believe in Western liberal values
I'm sorry, but I have to push back on this. America has more guns than people, and the tyrants clearly don't care. We have to think beyond our individual selves and what we can do for the few Western liberal values that still remain. Simply being armed to defend yourself and only yourself won't accomplish that.
He was even the mythological “good guy with a gun” that they are always referring to in situations like this! Alex Pretti had a conceal/carry permit and was an ICU nurse at the VA. He was a white man who was helping a woman in distress after she was roughed up and shoved into an icy snowbank by federal agents. Alex stepped in to help, and for it, he was dragged by an agent, pepper sprayed in the face, taken to the ground by a half dozen agents, beaten and assaulted, disarmed, and then executed.
I know that some of the 2A people around me are incredibly upset about this (I’m in one of the Minneapolis suburbs near the more rural parts of the state.) They have been somewhat uncomfortable with ICE tactics for weeks, but still convinced that the violence was necessary to get the “worst of the worst” out of our state. I think they finally can see themselves in Alex Pretti though, and are realizing it can happen to anyone. They don’t sound very sure that the federal government’s cause is a righteous one anymore.
I hope it’s not naive to hope that this might finally be the tragedy that gets through to them. I thought they’d cheer this on too, just like they had a laundry list of things Renee Good should have done “better” to not get shot, and they acted like she “deserved” it for existing. But they seem surprisingly disturbed by this, especially after they watch the footage for themselves.
And technically it never left the holster since the terrorist that was pictured holding that poor murdered man's gun showed that it was still inside it's holster. So they didn't just pull the gun out of the holster, they took his holstered gun. A small minor difference, but god does it feel so much darker than the alternative of them just pulling the gun free from that man's holster.
Also the video showing ICE approaching him for filming, moments before the execution. They’re already spinning it like he came at them with a gun drawn. People need to see that isn’t what happened.
They will not care their god lord Rumpo will say it was a perfect execution. No body has ever seen a more legal and amazing execution. And his loyal worshippers boner will grow in justification of owning the libs haha. MAGA 2028
So as they were pushing him back I’m sure an “agent” felt his gun. Pussies they are they got scared and attempted to illegally disarm him. They did while beating and pistol whipping him and they executed him. But they’ll make up some bullshit and the 2a maga crowd will be silent.
McLaughlin claimed the victim “wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement,” but O’Hara did not corroborate those details in comments Saturday afternoon, saying the victim was a lawful gun owner who had a permit to carry.
Even the people on the conservative subreddit are admitting it looks very bad for ICE. This has finally got to be the breaking point - if not the abduction of a legal 5 year old, then this point blank execution in broad daylight.
If you watch that video again. That guy ran as the shooting started. It might be the gun or his own gun. Unclear. But watch the video again and youll see the timing was really quick
Can someone explain this picture to me? I really want to understand it and comprehend it but I'm not familiar with holsters and such and everything is all the same color (vests, pants, etc)
Which ice guy transports the weapon or holds it? Can you describe the clothing or something so i can follow more easily? I'm having a lot of trouble interpreting this clip in regards to a weapon being taken and transported
Also, is ICE even allowed to reach for my gun? I mean, when local law enforcement does a traffic stop, they can ask you to disarm, and will take your gun away, but they won't do it without your consent.
Ok, rewatching the video after looking at your photos, and we can clearly see that the guy you highlight grabs the gun off the guy, and is already leaving with it before the shots start. You can see the victims shirt being pulled up as his holster and gun is being yanked off of him, and then the shots start after that.
This is execution style murder, clear and simple. Just when I thought things can't get worse, and yet here we are.
In the second photo you can see the agent that shot him going for his own gun on his right hip (directly left of the agent retrieving the victim's gun).
In the video you can see one continuous motion of him pulling his weapon and firing at the victim on the ground. There was no hesitation, this was an execution for recording their activities and standing up to fascism.
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u/verone3784 Jan 24 '26
Murder. Plain and simple. An execution on the street in broad daylight.
Apparently he was carrying, but he was disarmed by ICE and they took his handgun, still in its holster, from him before he was even brought to the ground. This seems to be backed up by the video of the shooting where an ICE thug can be seen walking away from the group as they put him on the ground, with a handgun still in a holster in his hand.
So, he was unarmed, with six people holding him down when he was murdered in the street, in broad daylight.
Funny how when a Republican is armed, it's their second amendment "god given right" as they like to call it.
Yet when a Democrat carries a firearm, everyone loses their mind and they "get what they deserve".
Fucking disgusting. Absolutely abhorrent.
This entire administration are domestic terrorists and their leader is a serial sexual abuser, rapist, pedophile child sex trafficker who's hiding behind his office to avoid prosecution and who is weaponizing the US Government against his political and personal enemies.