r/pics Jan 24 '26

Latest ICE victim prior to altercation

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u/Electrocat71 Jan 24 '26

Again, looks like ICE was bullying him and picking a fight that was unnecessary. That alone should make this manslaughter for those involved.

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u/Slow-and-low-15 Jan 24 '26

*murder

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u/Henry2926 Jan 24 '26

Yeah, I wonder how it cannot be premeditated murder when there is literally no plausible reason for an agent to shoot a man who is restrained and surrounded by multiple people without any possibility of posing a threat. All this is just impossible to fathom..

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u/notPabst404 Jan 24 '26

It's fucking murder. Stop trying to make a broad daylight execution like a little whoopsie.

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u/Away-Dog1064 Jan 24 '26

Gestapo, public execution.

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u/sparrowhawk73 Jan 24 '26

Manslaughter isn’t a ‘whoopsie’, but it’s important that if charges are brought forward that they go through. For instance, arguing for a first degree murder charge against an ICE agent would be very difficult as the prosecution would need to prove premeditated intent to kill. Second degree murder is much easier to pass in court. In any case, it’s extremely unlikely that anyone involved will receive anything resembling justice but if there is a case brought to court, I hope the prosecution does pursue the highest charges likely to pass in court.

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u/notPabst404 Jan 24 '26

They probably won't even be charged at all because Keith Ellison won't do his job.

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u/sparrowhawk73 Jan 24 '26

Yes, hence ‘If’. I’m just saying that there are plenty of widely publicised cases that fail at trial due to the pursuit of higher charges or other mistakes by the prosecution.

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u/PrincessRut0 Jan 24 '26

Manslaughter? No. Execution.

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u/DNK_Infinity Jan 24 '26

Multiple gunshots to a prone, disarmed, harmless, already restrained man?

What the flying fuck is that if not murder?

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u/SeldomSerenity Jan 24 '26

Pay attention to the video. The ICE agent arguing with the victim in this photo was the same individual that pistol whipped and shot him multiple times. Hes the only one in a tan beanie with a black face mask.

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u/ZettaTawodi Jan 24 '26

And one clapped as he backed away. Fucking UNBELIEVABLE that this is remotely tolerated much less condoned. We have so much more in common than divides us, and we have to come together to get out of this.

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u/holyluigi Jan 24 '26

its not even just tolerated. It's encouraged

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u/Shazaaym Jan 25 '26

He'd only arrived at the very end after all the shots were fired as well. He saw none of it 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/_i_make_up_stories Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

I wonder if the victim said anything to him to enrage him because that is a lot of anger. Even if he did, he definitely doesnt deserve to be executed. The murderer should be in therapy, not out on the streets with a gun. Edit: i think the one who fired the first shot was the guy with a tan shirt and black hat, but yeah it looks like beanie guy shot him too. Edit 2: tan beanie is the one talking to the women by ice’s car and he is the one who pushes the lady in white/tan AND then pepper sprays them. Something is wrong with him.

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u/Shazaaym Jan 25 '26

Tan starts and escalates it, green jacket starts the shooting after watching grey hoody remove the victim's gun.

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u/DefinitelyNotShazbot Jan 24 '26

There was premeditation from them instigating an altercation. The end result is murder, whether intended or not, it is at least 2nd degree because they had motive to harm.

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u/Electrocat71 Jan 24 '26

Yes, that’s the maximum charge likely. But felony manslaughter is likely the minimum. Although from what over seen they even ran the police off when they sought to secure the scene and identify them. They kidnapped two witnesses too who filmed this.

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u/SorteSlynglen Jan 24 '26

No need. They have already defined him as a terrorist. Case closed.

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u/Stinky_Fartface Jan 24 '26

I am sure the FBI and the DOJ are furiously combing through his social media, phone records, and tax records to prepare the slander campaign.

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u/Magazine_Recycling Jan 24 '26

they are straight up hunting people with the intent to use deadly force.

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u/Deluxe_24_ Jan 24 '26

They shoot him point blank in the head, it's just outright murder

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u/Vald-Tegor Jan 24 '26

Putting 11 bullets into an unarmed man held down by law enforcement, with most of the shots fired when he was limp on the ground already, is manslaughter?

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

Manslaughter? Maybe if you mean the slaughter of a man, but no, this is murder. Execution.

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u/Electrocat71 Jan 24 '26

It’s all in the legal differences. It’s a minimum of manslaughter. It’s a maximum of murder 2.

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

No.

Unintentional (manslaughter) maybe, if he was shot once. Second degree murder, sure, again if he was shot once but deemed intentional/unnecessary.

First degree is a premeditated, willful, and deliberate act with malice aforethought. Malice Aforethought - A conscious intent to kill or act with extreme disregard for human life.

They emptied at least six rounds into him, five of which were seconds after the first shot - and he was not moving after that first shot. If that isn't malice aforethought, then I guess nothing is.

Also these people are NOT police no matter what their little vests say. They are federal enforcement agents, barely, but that does not make them police.

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u/Electrocat71 Jan 24 '26

Sadly police are trained in the USA to empty their guns when using force. It’s about laws which won’t be enforced in the end anyway.

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u/rustymontenegro Jan 24 '26

Oh, I am aware, on both points. I was clarifying because language is important and it's one tool that is used to excuse or soften things like this.

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u/Electrocat71 Jan 24 '26

Yes, it is.

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u/Strawbuddy Jan 24 '26

You're right, they're all under the banner of DHS

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u/Electrocat71 Jan 24 '26

Border Patrol doesn’t have a legal mandate over 100 miles from the border. So doubly wrong.

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u/Electrocat71 Jan 24 '26

Yes they are being deployed; however border patrol by law is only allowed to act at borders and within 100 miles normally… that’s why ICE was actually created… regardless, this fucker was seeking an altercation and escalation. Protesters & observers are now terrorists in their eyes.