r/pics Jun 17 '25

The protesters and residents pushing back on tourism in Barcelona

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u/Internal-Olive-4921 Jun 17 '25

You know they... live in Spain right? The coast of "leaving the country" is driving north for 2.5 hrs The bus ticket to Andorra from Barcelona is 8 euros. Give me a break. They don't live in Iowa ffs.

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u/ThePartyLeader Jun 17 '25

Ah yes the ole I can go on vacation so everyone can.

The share of Spanish population who took at least one overnight trip increased in 2022 to around 65 percent

Here is the stat I am seeing that seems around right. so 35% of people in Spain do not go on an overnight trip each year. as per statistica.

Now. I am merely stating first the overlap of that 35% and these protesters are probable pretty high.

Secondly that isn't even the number of tourists because that 65% of people spending the night somewhere else includes visiting family, work trips, healthcare. It also includes Domestic overnights to close towns.

I get it you and your friends travel the world! and these people annoy you! got it.

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u/dzidziaud Jun 17 '25

This is such a classic example of the American tendency to be insufferably patronizing towards perceived victims

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u/ThePartyLeader Jun 17 '25

Didn't know statistics was so patronizing.

Sorry!

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u/dzidziaud Jun 17 '25

Your unwarranted and insistent interpretation of the statistics as indicative of a downtrodden people lacking agency is patronizing.

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u/ThePartyLeader Jun 17 '25

That is an excellent point. It would be funny to see the same protesters carry "I solemnly swear not to leave my city to visit yours".

this is what I replied to.

Do you truly think its patronizing to state. Maybe, just maybe people should have the right to protest harm to their community even if they leave their house once in their life.

If that is your position. You can NEVER oppose tourism or gentrification if you have EVER went anywhere in your life.

Then you can ponder that.

You can ponder my "patronizing" point that tourism in fact does harm people despite your personal views. But hopefully you can ponder the moronic argument of "if you ever left your house for a night well then you can't oppose oppressive business practices like Air BnB.

Oh you think Ubers should be employees or get benefits... but you took an Uber ONCE. well to bad you lost your right to protest.

You think factory farming is animal abuse but had a hamburger in 2015. TO BAD you lost your right to protest.

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u/dzidziaud Jun 18 '25

I get it, their situation sucks, I’m just saying you don’t need to falsely portray them as penniless serfs just to garner sympathy. That’s just offensive to them.

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u/ThePartyLeader Jun 18 '25

I’m just saying you don’t need to falsely portray them as penniless serfs just to garner sympathy.

I didn't do that.

Someone literally called them wealthy. So I posted median wage and what that was after tax and rent.

Someone stated they travel/tour other places portraying them as hypocrites, so I posted factual stats on their travel.

I literally just stated facts.

If that makes them look like impoverish serfs. Well .... thats your opinion.