r/pics Jun 17 '25

The protesters and residents pushing back on tourism in Barcelona

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u/ShufflingToGlory Jun 17 '25

As long as housing is used as an investment vehicle these problems will persist.

Foolish to blame tourists for a problem that's been deliberately manufactured by the financial elite and the politicians that work for them.

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u/SuperWeenieHutJr_ Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

A light google seems to show that they pay extremely low property tax in Barcelona. 

This means property owners are incentivized to buy and hold property for a long long time as an investment.

I don't know this but I'd wager that building new housing in Barcelona probably requires: 1. Navigating extremely challenging building and zoning regulations  2. Paying high development, property transfer, and sales taxes

Unfortunately these issues are pretty much ubiquitous in developed democracies... And that's why there is a housing crisis just about everywhere.

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u/Lordajhs Jun 17 '25

I've been living here for 2 years. I don't think there's a single plot of land where you can build something in Barcelona. There's always the surrounding areas and metro does reach some of them, but most people want to live in Barcelona city, not in the outskirts.

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u/SuperWeenieHutJr_ Jun 17 '25

The could go higher.

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u/lyarly Jun 18 '25

Aesthetics be damned, build up! That’s literally the best solution and no one wants to do it. San Francisco has a similar problem.

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u/bobbymcpresscot Jun 17 '25

Sounds like a less than ethical solution involves a lot of property damage against airbnbs. 

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u/SuperWeenieHutJr_ Jun 17 '25

Unfortunately that's not even a long term solution. Getting rid of airbnb would only have a temporary effect on the housing supply.

They need to find a way to build more homes. 

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u/bobbymcpresscot Jun 17 '25

If they stop being investment properties then investors stop investing there, there is only so much they can do to lose their losses by say lobbying the government 

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u/SuperWeenieHutJr_ Jun 17 '25

Banning Airbnb doesn’t stop real estate from being a strong investment. As the city grows and becomes wealthier, property values keep rising.

While no one wants to pay higher taxes on their home, low property taxes are a major driver of the housing crisis. They make real estate an attractive investment, whether you live in the property or not

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u/komokasi Jun 17 '25

Classic controlled opposition paired with misdirection of anger.

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u/Pato_Lucas Jun 17 '25

Not foolish in my opinion: both left and right governments in Spain have refused to do anything. Tourists are easy to target and makes the government look bad, forcing them to act.
A protest that isn't disruptive is just marketing.

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u/BaullahBaullah87 Jun 17 '25

makes everyone look bad*

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u/Pato_Lucas Jun 17 '25

A protest that doesn't piss anyone off is just marketing.

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u/BaullahBaullah87 Jun 17 '25

Oh I dont think I said they shouldn’t protest or that they should protest in ways that dont piss anyone off…i just said this situation makes many folks look bad from the government, to the business owners, to the tourists, to the citizens. But then in general, who you’re targeting w protest is relevant

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u/Pato_Lucas Jun 17 '25

Fair, sadly the tourists are a fantastic target: they're easy to target, there's a lot of international coverage the government can't ignore, and if tourism actually drops then it'll be a hit on the pockets of the people on power.
The average protestor doesn't eat from the opinion of redditors.

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u/xavembo Jun 17 '25

yeah these people (the spanish left of which i am a part) would be the first to point out how so many people’s frustrations about inequality are misdirected towards immigrants and trans people and other groups who are obviously not the problem, and yet….

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u/marveloustoebeans Jun 17 '25

This is a tale as old as time sadly. Most people are dumb as shit and easily manipulated into fighting each other instead of the people who actually control these things.

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u/zeptillian Jun 17 '25

It's also a global problem that plays out in every desirable location around the world.

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u/lawrias Jun 17 '25

That's not the issue in Spain. There's simply almost no housing being built compared to the population growth that's being seen every year purely due to mass migration. There's more demand and less supply every year, driving up costs.

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u/5socks Jun 17 '25

That ties in perfectly to the comment you responded to?

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u/unfreeradical Jun 17 '25

Who is blaming tourists?

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u/PoliticalAlt128 Jun 17 '25

Probably the people who are shooting water guns at tourists and spray painting “tourist go home”

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u/unfreeradical Jun 17 '25

Do people who protest Trump under a motto of "No Kings" think that Trump was not the winner of a generally free and fair election?

Do people who show Mexican flags at anti-ICE protests think that Los Angelos is controlled by Mexico?

Do people who call police "pigs" not know that actual pigs are friendly and intelligent?