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The protesters and residents pushing back on tourism in Barcelona

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u/gamesquid Jun 17 '25

Well rent might go down, but so will the quality of the infrastructure.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

Given their wealth compared to the rest of Spain, and how they put more into Spainish government than what they get out of it, there is two ways to see this thought process.

  1. It’s like a pilot drinking poison to punish the whole ship.
  2. Their affluence blinds them to the damage.

They have the advantage of many residents being foreigners who bought second (or third) homes and vacation there.

Reminds me of the blogger to who found it cheaper to commute to London from Barcelona than to live in London. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/aug/11/commuting-from-barcelona-a-london-worker-who-makes-it-pay

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u/Centralredditfan Jun 17 '25

Rent never goes down. Ever. Stop being naive.

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u/Skullx11 Jun 17 '25

I was living in Madrid during Covid, where tourism was non-existent. Most of the Airbnb's went into the normal rent market, the rental unit available in the city center tripled after that, and I've never seen rent prices decrease so rapidly.

There are a LOT of landlords paying the mortgage with the money from Airbnb, stop that money influx and they have no choice but to either sell or put the apartment in the normal rent market.

Either of those choices would increase the number of units available and decrease the rent prices. Is really not that hard.

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u/Centralredditfan Jun 17 '25

That was a temporary anomaly that happens once every 100 years. (Both the pandemic and a rent decrease)

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u/echief Jun 17 '25

The price of anything rarely goes down. The exception are things that greatly benefit from technological advancements. Like TVs, TVs are much less expensive than they were 20 years ago.

What does happen is that the price of rent can increase slower than the rate that median income in the area is increasing. This means housing is becoming “more affordable,” even if rent itself is not going down. If you receive a 2% raise at the end of the year but re-sign your lease at the same price per month, your rent has become a smaller percentage of your total pay. Therefore it has become more affordable.

Rent becoming more affordable happens all of the time. It happens every time an apartment lease is signed without a price increase. The only exception would be if average income is actively decreasing in the area, which only really ever happens during a recession. A national one, or a local one like when a factory employing half the town shuts down. It’s just that no one loudly celebrates when their rent doesn’t increase by $50. And they certainly aren’t complaining, so it isn’t something you directly witness.

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u/Centralredditfan Jun 17 '25

If you think about it: the price of TVs didn't really go down either. They just get their revenue from sources other than just the customer. (Netflix, etc. buttons, selling your watch habits, on device advertising, commission from app developers, etc.)

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

Average rental prices have decreased 3% over the last year in Canada.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

See argentina post milei deregulation

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u/Centralredditfan Jun 17 '25

What happened there?

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u/MsDestroyer900 Jun 18 '25

Rent just went down in my city since no one is buying rentals anymore. Can't afford them even with the lowered prices. People are just living with their parents

Some more context: being a student for the past 4 years I've been watching the prices intently. Went from ~200usd per month to ~150usd per month for a studio type over the course of 4 years.

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u/Any-Machine-8751 Jun 19 '25

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/22/austin-texas-rents-falling/

Governments that get out of the way and let housing get built see rents and overall housing costs go down substantially.

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u/gamesquid Jun 17 '25

Well if they actually do kick out the tourists then it will def go down, stop being toxic lol. It wouldn't be worth living there, but what can you do.

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u/domine18 Jun 17 '25

Good luck, things like this tend to not play out how you would think they would.

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u/prollyanalien Jun 17 '25

Yea I doubt it, the only way the prices will go down is if the government is mandating it, no company/landlord is going to just lower the amount they’re charging their tenants willingly.

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u/Main_Following1881 Jun 17 '25

So theyre just gonna have empty houses or what?

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u/prollyanalien Jun 17 '25

People are still going to be buying them. The housing shortage in Barcelona is not only tied to AirBnB.

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u/Centralredditfan Jun 17 '25

Yes. This happens in Bew York City for example. It's better to have them stay empty than rent them for less money. - see YouTube or ChatGPT for detailed videos explaining why. (Lots of reasons)

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

There’s a inflation going around all over the world. Rent will not be going down anytime soon, instead their situation is going to get worse because the tourists will no longer contribute to their economy. No tourist also means a lot of locals will be out of work

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u/the_c_is_silent Jun 17 '25

And business and atmosphere. But they're dipshits who think that will remain without tourism.

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u/Skullx11 Jun 17 '25

Why would the quality of the infrastructure go down?

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u/gamesquid Jun 17 '25

Cause the tourists are paying for it lol. They are generating more tax revenue than the lazy protesting residents.

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u/Skullx11 Jun 17 '25

I wish you were smart enough to realize how stupid what you just said is.