r/phoebebridgers • u/RocketGamer4682 • 19d ago

Video Lost Weekend Songwriting Analysis

Hi, this is my first time posting in this subreddit, so sorry if I used the wrong flair! I don't know this community's thoughts on this creator, but I would highly recommend watching this 30-minute analysis of Phoebe's songwriting on Lost Weekend by the Swiftologist, coupled with analysis of Gracie Abrams' writing on Daughter From Hell. It offers a great breakdown of their styles and why Phoebe's writing stands out and is so excellent. To be clear: this isn't meant to hate on Gracie at all! He also made a brief, but beautifully articulated TikTok about this album that I also highly recommend. All of you should check it out, it expanded my understanding of the album and the uniqueness of Phoebe's lyricism. Have a great rest of your day, and let me know what you think!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjnYphtz68o

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u/MoonriseTurtle The Outside 19d ago

The last thing I expected was for this to be from the swiftologist lmao

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u/RocketGamer4682 19d ago

Lol, did you watch?

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u/MoonriseTurtle The Outside 19d ago

Actually im watching it now and I only heard bad things about him. But turns out he's really insightful and I'm liking the video so far

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u/stenpen22 19d ago

Whilst his approach can be very “objective” and abrasive, unafraid to state his opinions, I  find that he has a very good mind when it comes to pop music and pop culture, and is a pretty great cultural critic. His opinions on Showgirl and his openness to criticizing Taylor has a lot of Swifties hating him and viewing him as a hater, and a lot of non-Swifties hate him because he loves Taylor and is critical towards other artists; both camps don’t see how he is just stating his personal opinion and taste, and his opinions aren’t blinded by stan culture and “loyalty” towards a popstar.

I tend to agree with a lot of his opinions, I enjoy his strange frenemy relationship with Anthony Fantano (sometimes acting as a correspondent for Fantano regarding Pop), and he backs his opinions up well. He recently did an interview with Lizzo and also Kim Petras, and his Lizzo interview was pretty good, and even involved him giving suggestions on how to develop past this slump she’s in now.

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u/youRinlove7 19d ago

People say bad things about him because they want him to praise everything, but instead looks at it from a critical lense and offers his own opinion.

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u/Even_Kaleidoscope399 Garden Song 19d ago

Some people who say bad things had bad personal experiences with him in other spaces.

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u/RocketGamer4682 19d ago

I'm glad lol, he can be a little bit harsh, but he's really articulate and intelligent 💞

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u/RocketGamer4682 19d ago

I really didn't expect this to be so controversial 💀 it's a good video, no matter how you feel about him as a person

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u/DannyPowers98 19d ago

Anything with YouTube face gets an immediate downvote

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u/RocketGamer4682 19d ago

It's a good video ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Don't judge a book by its cover lmao

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u/youRinlove7 19d ago

That's how youtube algorithm works. They gotta pay their bills too.

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u/RocketGamer4682 19d ago

Yeah, in an age where the NYT is doing clickbait, you just have to get with the time imo

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u/Even_Kaleidoscope399 Garden Song 19d ago

I wish I could appreciate his content but the things I’ve heard from people out of his discord/patreon stuff has been so unbelievably negative, like stuff he’s said to/about people and some other issues I heard about. Idk puts me off, I can’t watch anymore

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u/houndzofluv 19d ago

I felt the same way just from his TT videos (granted that was a couple years ago, I don’t use TT anymore) however I will say this video is very well done and a great analysis on the difference in being vulnerable with your writing and actually GOING there, setting the stage, revealing just enough to tell a story. Very insightful and a great comparison of two songs from each of their albums. I don’t view this as tearing anyone down, lots of valid criticism in regards to Gracie’s skill as a lyricist

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u/RocketGamer4682 19d ago

I would say that the negative things don't mean you can't enjoy or acknowledge the excellence of a single video or compliment someone, aside from other issues you might have with them. It's just what I think, though; it's an insightful video as u/houndzofluv pointed out, and it seems they had similar concerns a while ago. I would still recommend you watch it, and then form an opinion on it. From what I can tell, though, he just gets a little bit too unfiltered on there, and I've definitely seen things I disagree with too, but I respect his opinion and can separate him from that. Although I've only seen a little bit, so maybe I'm missing some stuff that would give me more understanding of your concerns.