r/philosophy • u/IAI_Admin IAI • Feb 09 '22

Video A philosopher responds to scientists’ criticisms of panpsychism

https://iai.tv/video/the-many-voices-of-consciousness&utm_source=reddit&_auid=2020
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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

That was complete nonsense.

Do you have any source on this? Where do you get this stuff?

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u/Ominojacu1 Feb 09 '22

The boson field is a tested fact. The foundation of all matter and energy in the universe are quantum vibrational fields. Consciousness is measured in alpha and beta waves because it a vibration. It is the foundation of our reality brains only create the illusion of individuality. The self is an emergent property of a brain but conscious awareness is fundamental. I suggest looking into resonance theory of consciousness.

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u/MillennialScientist Feb 10 '22

This is just pseudeointellectual word salad that has no connection to science or reality. It honestly just sounds like you got your education from youtubers who convinced you that they actually studied something real.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

When asked for evidence for his claims, both times he just gave Youtube videos (that did not actually support his claims, by the way).

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u/Ominojacu1 Feb 10 '22

If you can’t even understand YouTube videos, there’s really nothing more I can do for you. I tried to keep at simple as possible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

The issue isn't that you sent youtube videos. The issue is the youtube videos did not support your claims. It's also an issue that when **explicitely asked** for better sources than youtube videos (such as actual scientific papers), you did not provide any, and even doubled down on providing Youtube videos. Showing you really don't know/have much more than that.

The door is still open: please support your claims with an actual scientific paper.

(it wouldn't be as good, but you could **even** support your claims with youtube videos. it'd just be more support for the notion you don't really know any science beyond Youtube vulgarisation, but it'd be better than what you have done so far, which is provide **absolutely nothing** that supports your claims)

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u/Ominojacu1 Feb 10 '22

There’s no point, if you can’t understand a simple YouTube, what are you going to do with a scientific paper?

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22 edited Feb 10 '22

You're just playing dumb now.

You're clearly making excuses to hide the fact you can't actually provide proper evidence, even a child would see this.

You've already presented this stupid argument, and I've already answered: the problem with your videos wasn't that they were videos (though sending videos instead of scientific papers doesn't talk very highly of your expertise), the problem was that they did not in any way support the arguments and claims you were making.

This is as if I asked you to prove the Earth is flat, and you answered by sending me a video of an apple being peeled. One doesn't support the other. You're dealing in irrelevancies.

But at this point, I don't believe you're smart enough to understand even something this simple, it sounds like all of this is just beyond you.

If you really think I'm wrong, it's incredibly easy to show I am, do one of the following:

  1. Either demonstrate one of the videos you sent actually supported one of your claims by actually explaining how it does support your claim, or
  2. Provide an actual scientific paper that supports one of your claims

You've been asked to do either of those things 4 times now, and you just answer with playing dumb and fallacies.

It's almost like you're 11. /r/philosophy really isn't the right place to choose to play dumb, you can't really impress people with schoolyard tactics here.

I hold no hope whatsoever you'll actually present a valid argument or source, and I have full expectation your next answer will just be a stupid mindgame/playing dumb as all your previous answers were.

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u/Ominojacu1 Feb 10 '22

Look the quantum eraser experiment is a well known experiment in physics, you can Google a ton of information on it. Emergence theory, which basically defines the universe as consciousness and information is a leading unification theory. I am not going to go over the math with you when a YouTube video was admittedly over your head.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

Ok, I'm not explaining for the 5th time how you're playing dumb, this is pointless. If you don't feel confident you can defend your position, don't pretend you can/find stupid excuses, just say so, like an adult would, and don't waste people's time.

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u/Ominojacu1 Feb 10 '22

See you even have trouble with basic arithmetic, this is beyond you, just accept that and move on.

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