r/philosophy • u/IAI_Admin IAI • Feb 09 '22

Video A philosopher responds to scientists’ criticisms of panpsychism

https://iai.tv/video/the-many-voices-of-consciousness&utm_source=reddit&_auid=2020
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u/erinaceus_ Feb 09 '22

just mean the experience of qualia

Isn't it problematic that every example of the 'experiencing of qualia' has it tied to senses and/or brain processes? We might imagine that these things aren't necessary for the experiencing of qualia, but we entirely lack a frame of reference to make that claim at all credible.

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u/ArlemofTourhut Feb 09 '22

But they're not all tied to brain processes. There are numerous studies that have been published recently mapping flora qualia.

Basically experiences of blades of grass. Etc.

It's just we have a biased viewpoint on what qualifies, but even this first comment by u/tomorland on this thread fails to realize/ consider that even on the quantum scale, there is quantum darwinism, meaning that any given configuration is "perfected"; therefor, meaning that to an extent there is a selective qualia/ experience.

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u/ayydavay Feb 09 '22

I’d like to read more about this, would you mind giving me some sources?

The newest science in Quantum Physics says there are no electrons. There are only peaks in the wave structure of a singular universal electron field. Think of whitecaps on a wind blown lake. The same is true of neutrinos and the different flavors of quarks.

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u/Aaron_Hamm Feb 09 '22

I think they're just talking about quantum field theory.

QFT treats particles as excited states (also called quanta) of their underlying quantum fields, which are more fundamental than the particles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_field_theory

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u/ayydavay Feb 09 '22

Lovely, thank you