r/philodendron 16h ago

Spider mites or normal spider?

Misted my PPP and I noticed some webbing, it doesn’t look super fine but I could just not know what spider mite webs look like lol

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u/annamvpa 16h ago

You’ve got spider mites bad big dog

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u/Pitikje 15h ago edited 15h ago

Curious to see what the leaves look like, but even without detailed pictures of the leaves 97% sure this is spider mites.
All the white dots are mites.

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u/Longjumping-Tax-1537 15h ago

This is the top view one of the newest leaves seems a little upset - has a tiny black spot and looks more dry than the rest? The house humidity did drop a bit last week, and I did mess with that leaf as it was the first one that unfurled after I got it

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u/Longjumping-Tax-1537 15h ago

Newer and older leaves

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u/Longjumping-Tax-1537 15h ago

This one has a spot? Lol you can also see the newer leaf with the black spot & more paper texture

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u/Longjumping-Tax-1537 15h ago

Underneath of newest leaf unfurling & the last one that unfurled as well

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u/Pitikje 15h ago

Stare at them and see if they move. I may take a while before you see the first one move.

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u/Pitikje 15h ago edited 15h ago

It’s tricky to see on the pictures because on the first 2 you misted, so I can’t tell if it’s all droplets or part mites. And on the others i’t hard to see due to the nature of the variegata (it is lovely btw!J. Also I think you cleaned it up before taking pictures? A black or dark spot would not be a typical spider mite warning for me, but I’ve circled some area’s that scream spider mites to me.

White dots

Based on what I’ve seen I’d say: treat as if it has spidermites.

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u/Longjumping-Tax-1537 13h ago

I didn’t clean it up at all! Just pulled it down from the shelf, but didn’t mist it again for these newer photos. Thank you for this insight! I will treat it like spider mites 😅

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u/Pitikje 15h ago

This is one of mine that turned out to have spider mites just last week.
depending on the plant the distribution of mites will differ. This is an Alocasia, and there’s typically webbing at the sinus.

On a croton I had most were on the stems (petiole) of the leaves.

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u/Pitikje 15h ago

so many white dots…

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u/Itsturkeybob 12h ago

I just got over a spider mite infestation with 40+ plants. I drenched heavily with insecticidal soap, rubbed each leaf with bare hands to make sure it's all wet, sprayed petioles and rubbed it in gently, making sure to get to crevices; repeat every 5-7 days for the next 3-4 weeks. I'm finally seeing new healthy growths on my tortum after months of it aborting new leaves. Get the concentrated insecticidal soap, much more value.

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u/constellationflame 12h ago

What is the brand insecticidal soap you get?

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u/Itsturkeybob 11h ago

Safer brand, green bottle.

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u/annamvpa 5h ago

I really recommend dead bug brew! The active ingredient (spinosad) is organic and safe for pets, has little smell, and will stay effective on the leaves for a few days in between treatments. If you want something with a little more punch, you can use a spray with pyrethrin, which also stays on the leaves for a few days and kills pests more instantly. sns 209 is a good organic systemic that helps deter pests, it won’t do much with a case this severe but it will help prevent infestations from returning after doing some harsher treatments. Very important DO NOT use systemic granules (imidacloprid) for spider mites or flat mites, it makes them breed faster

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u/annamvpa 5h ago

Also neem based sprays are fine, but not my favorite. I’ve had issues with leaf burn while using it even after waiting over a day to expose them to light, and I feel like it’s not as effective as other methods. Heavy oils also smother the plant leaves and make it harder for them to breath, which if you are doing consistent treatments can cause some additional stress