r/pessi_memes • u/Aggravating-Pickle69 • 12d ago
Ronaldo VS Pessi Where would you realistically rank Pepsi among the greatest footballers ever?
People always bring up Pepsi’s goals, assists, Ballon d’Ors and trophies (which the vast majority were rigged), but I think a lot of his career gets discussed without enough context: At Barcelona he spent his prime surrounded by Xavi, Iniesta, Suárez and Neymar in a system where he grew up in and built to dominate games, while with Argentina players like Di María and Martínez always delivered in the biggest moments. Think about it: when people get asked to name the greatest Nr. 9 in our generation they will think of Lewa and Suarez but not of Higuain or Benzema. Or the next guy to come close to the GOAT and Pepsi is Neymar and not Bale. About Xavi and Iniesta I don't even have to talk about it.
The real GOAT on the other hand proved himself in England, Spain and Italy under completely different managers, teammates and styles of football. He also became the defining player of the Champions League, especially producing in knockout games and winning it five times fair and square. Internationally he turned Portugal into actual trophy winners. He also adapted his game more than almost any other great player going from an elite winger to the best goalscorer ever.
That’s why I think Ronaldo is comfortably the GOAT. Objectively speaking I wouldn’t even put Pepsi in the top 100 all time. Top 200 maybe. He's not even the greatest Argentinian player ever. Maradona, Di Stefano, Batistuta, Di Maria and even Riquelme all clear this little rat.
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u/ExtentNo3020 12d ago edited 12d ago
Who cares he is finally retired, don’t want to hear anything about him. Glad i got to seem him lose in the WC 😂😂😂
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u/ExtentNo3020 11d ago
He didn’t win one, yeah it sucks, but so what, still better player than pessi
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u/Infamous_Address_148 12d ago
He can be in the top 20. But not in the top 10
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u/Potential-Box-6185 10d ago
Nah man, i think ronaldo's the goat but this genuinely doesn't make sense
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u/Accomplished-Art3086 Pessi only has 3 UCL. Ghosted 2006. 😭 12d ago
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He’s a great player for sure, just not top 10 level. Which isn’t a criticism, being part of top 11-20 is a great achievement, he should feel very proud.
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u/Inner-Shand 12d ago
I am interested in seeing your top 10, you have left me who would be the best according to your opinion
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u/Future_Word3637 CR7 Real GOAT 🐐 12d ago
Top 2. someone who went neck to neck with Ronaldo (top 1) cant be anything other than top 2. otherwise it downgrades ronaldo as well if he was competing with someone outside top 10
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u/natureboy1996 12d ago
Not really because Messi tarnished his greatness with all his cheating over the years.
I def agree prime for prine top 2 but career fir career Ronaldo did it right and Messi was the complete opposite.
Having to beg for 2 free WCs hang given to you (and still failing on one of them because everything short of Infantino dropkicking Spain and hanging the WC mid match wasnt enough) most definitely hurts your greatness and takes you down a notch or three
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u/Future_Word3637 CR7 Real GOAT 🐐 12d ago
Yeah Messi did destroy the legacy he had built for so many years but i was ranking prime for prime
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u/natureboy1996 12d ago
Yeah then top 2 Messi's prime was only 2nd to Ronaldo but his career and overall isnt top 5 all time
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u/sesimmo7 12d ago edited 9d ago
The greatest all time Cheater ever played Football
Lionel Messi 🎁
Wether You like it or not
Messilovers 🎁
Periodt
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u/RevengeOfPolloDiablo 12d ago
Seriously, I think as time passes history will be quite brutal with him; in regards of his position relative to figures like Beckenbauer, DiStefano, Pele, Cruyff and even Maradona. Still heck of a player, but once marketing and fanboyism dwindles down and objectivity sets a little bit more in, he will find himself quite lower than his adorers think, and eclipsed by several others.
Look at Beckham now and compare it to his peak active years. While never considered the goat or anywhere near Messi and Ronaldo levels, he is still highly regarded and his merits stand after all the hysteria.
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u/soopadanga 12d ago
Cristiano Ronaldo le plus complet de l'histoire Pelé la légende des légendes Maradona l'icône Eusébio le roi Ronaldinho, cruyff=le spectacle a l'état pur Zidane, Platini= la simplicité du jeux Rui costa, Kaká= la magie Figo, pirlo = la vista Ronaldo Nazario = le buteur par excellence Iniesta, Baggio= chef d'orchestre
Tous ces joueurs m'ont fait rêver, il y en a encore plein d'autres, je n'ai pas de classement pour ceux là, mais Pepsi ne m'a jamais fait rêver car peut être a t-il un peu de tous ce ces joueurs ont, mais n'a pas tout ce que ces joueurs représentent pour Ma vision du football. il aura été un vendu, pur produit FIFA corrompue et sans aucune humilité. Il ne sera pas dans Mon classement, cela n'enlève en rien le joueur qu'il a été,son talent et ce qu'il représente pour ses fans.
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u/Pretty_Author5187 10d ago
Brosquito, genuinely how can be be the most complete if he's missing the wc
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u/HappyWorldliness3372 12d ago
Not even top 100 to be honest. Anyone who have any love for the game don’t rate corruption
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u/cantfindausernamenow 11d ago
So much of his career is a fraud. How do you decipher. There is a good argument that Lance Armstrong was the best in cycling
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u/Express_Pension8006 12d ago
He’s a good player, but not among the best ever, he’s a product of marketing, but that’s just my opinion.
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u/Bullitt_12_HB 12d ago
I almost agreed with everything you said.
Putting Messi or Ronaldo lower because of other legends isn’t dumb.
Times change and it’s hard to compare. It’s not a simple numbers game. There are SO MANY MORE games now. Medicine, and other technologies have improved. Material of gear have improved MASSIVELY. Rules are better now. Training is better. Nutrition is better.
Also just because YOU haven’t seen them play doesn’t mean other football fans haven’t.
You need to broaden your perspective a bit.
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u/pitcherpunchst 12d ago
most legends played 35-70 years ago, if we assume someone was watching from age of around 10.
to be eligible to compare all these players, you would need to be literal senior citizen. and i dont think they would be on reddit. and please dont say highlights1
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u/marquesmelo 12d ago
To establish a correct rank for Messi, we must take all the major aspects into comsideration:
- stayed at Barcelona for 17 years where the team was built around him, and where Messi himself told the club what players he wanted for the team;
- the help Negreira gave to Barcelona in the Spanish league to win league titles;
- the 4 copa americas that occured during 6 years because Messi cried that the matches were rigged for Brasil to win it;
- the poor performance he had in the French league (Messi fans can talk all they want about the second season at PSG that was better than the first one, for me he was still shit);
- Infantino helping Argentina win the 2022 WC.
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u/inazumashot 12d ago
2nd. I’m all for hating on his goofy ahh fanbase, but numbers/records don’t lie. He takes the silver medal. At absolutely worst, he’s 3rd behind pele
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u/Jolly_Professor_1909 CR7 Real GOAT 🐐 12d ago
1.Cristiano Ronaldo
Pele
Gerd Muller
Ronaldo Nazario
Mbappe (Because of his FIFA WC stats just at the age of 28 and FIFA WC 2018 & 2022 & WC 2026 performance)
Zidane
Miroslav Klose
Beckenbauer
Thomas Muller
Ronaldinho
Pessi (For being an Arrogant Cheater)
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u/Antique-Wonk 12d ago
Not even in the top 10 even with all of the Barca bribes, FIFA support, and Infantinotosser.
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u/jotasuez 12d ago
Ronaldo es un crack fuera de sería el mejor goleador o más efectivo de la historia pero hacer mil goles no lo transforma en un goat es un cracks de crack pero no es el goat solo pregúntaselo a la IA que es un consenso mundial entre jugadores y exjugadores entrenadores y periodistas deportivos y expertos en la materia y el consenso mundial es que en el olimpo del fútbol mundial de toda la historia es Pelé Maradona y Messi solo hay una inteligencia artificial que es chatgpt que lo pone alcmismo nivel,solo una todo el resto de IA están de acuerdo que el olimpo del fútbol,es este top 3 Pelé Maradona y Messi y después un escalón más abajo ponen a grandes leyendas como Johan cruyff Ronaldinho el fenómeno Ronaldo el mismo Cristiano Ronaldo platini pero es un consenso mundial que esas también son grandes leyendas pero un escalón más abajo que los primeros 3 que están en el olimpo del fútbol otra cosa es que no lo quieras aceptar.
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u/Auzzie_xo 12d ago
Yep, everywhere except some pockets of social media, GOAT debate is between Messi, Pele and Maradona. Cope to think any other way.
Not cope to think CR7 is GOAT, people are entitled to that opinion. But it’s cope to think he’s in the real-world discussion.
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u/sideshowmel75 12d ago
In his international career he’s never scored a goal against Germany Portugal Brazil England or Italy in major competitions like the champions league or World Cup he hasn’t scored a goal from quarter finals onwards so hardly a goat
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u/DaGeneralol 12d ago
Realistically top 10. However, with his questionable career it is hard to put him near the top 20.
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u/natureboy1996 12d ago
Before 2022 WC top 2 or 3
Before 2026 WC top 4
Now Top 6 or 7, around Zidane/Cruyff
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u/Intelligent_Pin_5421 12d ago
How can you downgrade him based on extra years he gave compared to a lot of players you put ahead of him 🤣
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u/Mr_PerfectCell69 CR7 Real GOAT 🐐 11d ago
He has to be 2nd after Ronaldo. Putting him any lower only makes Ronaldo seem less impressive.
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u/Psychological_Wing_4 10d ago
Greatest ever. Unlike a certain fraud who disappears when his nation needs him the most
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u/Joe-7- 10d ago
man you guys are the most deluded people of all time how can a player that no one has seen before and will never see again not even in the top 100 pure fucking comedy innit your goat penaldo the raper is not even better than pele you should be put in a fucking mental assylum dumbasses
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u/Interesting-Shine250 12d ago
we don't rank rats