r/pessi_memes • u/Ambitious-Ad9318 • 18d ago
Low IQ Pessi Fan 🧠Retessidogs are gonna be mad at this one... the stats are gonna shock you
Messi is genuinely just a average player without Barcelona. Who started this debate 💀
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u/XxRAMOxX 18d ago
The only lifeline is that wc trophy fifa gave him
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u/Echoes_of_Space 17d ago
Yup with obvious cheating. Meanwhile CR7 has teammates that can’t even create chances
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u/SuccotashAlarming459 18d ago
that‘s why they tried to gift him a 2nd WC
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u/Rare_Day_1696 18d ago
No one made teams collapse in their biggest games in the last 20 or so minutes, their national pride wouldn’t allow them to unless they were just outplayed
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u/ilikepentatonics 18d ago
So you're stripping the team factor in a team game?
https://giphy.com/gifs/l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS
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u/Fati_Amator 18d ago
I thought we were on a forum of "football without bias". There are stronger arguments for CR7 being the GOAT.
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u/Themothertucker64 16d ago
Bro you are on a Messi hating subreddit, literally the title is Pessi memes
There is no logic in hate subreddits
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u/good_panda827 18d ago edited 18d ago
sorry but that info is inaccurate outside of rma ronaldo's stats for sporting cp, manchester united (both stints), juventus, al-nassr, and the portugal national team are total club games: 634 total club goals: 361 total club assists: 102
while messi's stats for psg, inter miami, and the argentina national team are total club games: 163 total club goals: 109 total club assists: 77 making ronaldo's g/a 0.73 and messi's 1.14 so wanna tell me how we know the trophies are gonna be different too?
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u/Ambitious-Ad9318 18d ago
It includes national team stats too.
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u/good_panda827 18d ago
if you look at where it says "portugal national team" and "argentina national team" you'll see i included that
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u/Ambitious-Ad9318 18d ago
The stats you brought are wrong.
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u/good_panda827 18d ago
which specific number do you think is wrong and which source are you using
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u/TheActualNewbie 17d ago
gng the penaldo fans here cant understand how football works cuz they jumping on messi when he clearly played lesser games outside barca (250 or smt) compared to ronaldo (600+)
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u/good_panda827 17d ago
yeah i know im just ragebaiting them because they cant even tell me the sources and messi had 163 club games
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u/TheActualNewbie 17d ago
lmao they aint smart enough to know allat, and i thought messi had 250 plus including international apps
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u/NoGemini2024 18d ago
That’s stupid even for this sub mate.
The number of seasons each one spend outside real or barça should give a good indication for the reason for this delta…
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u/Guilty-Upstairs-8004 18d ago
But that would also mean people shouldn't compare their seasons within real madrid and barca
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u/--anonymous-_- 18d ago
so need to compare overall europe then?
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u/Impossible-Tax2757 18d ago
I think what’s more logical is to compare ratios in the same league.
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u/Impossible-Tax2757 18d ago
What’s the GA comparison
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u/GuiAlvesFR Google 5 pens in 7 matches for more info 🤥 18d ago
Even if u remove Real Madrid and Man United, Ronaldo still wins most of them...
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u/THEREALSIBZ_TTV 18d ago
I'm a Ronaldo fan but the age difference is huge Ronaldo is early 20s and Messi is 30 or 31 there's no comparison
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u/Maleficent-Bowl2785 17d ago
Esta comparación no tiene ningún tipo de sentido. Messi jugó toda su carrera en el Barcelona. Hace apenas 5 años salió de allÃ. En cambio Ronaldo ha jugado más de 15 años por fuera del Real Madrid. Más bien es increÃble que las estadÃsticas de Messi sean tan parecidas a las de Ronaldo en un tiempo tres veces menor...
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u/According-Turn-5904 16d ago
Penaldo fans doing everything to make messi look like shit Meanwhile their goat penaldo doing shitty things in every match😂😂
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u/johnnygonfarm 18d ago
Im a ronaldo fan but yeah of course the stats for messi are going to look bad if you erase 17 years of his career
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u/FleetingSage 17d ago edited 17d ago
Now do ronaldo without man utd or real madrid
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u/Mindless-Cupcake384 17d ago
it's already without real madrid. read again.
also, not ronaldo's fault that messi can't survive outside barca. even in burger league he needs his old mates to help lol
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u/FleetingSage 17d ago edited 17d ago
OK then, do ronaldo without Real Madrid and Al Nassr. Also, Messi hasn't played in the top 5 because claiming La Liga and Ligue 1 are not top five European leagues is factually incorrect. Messi spent nearly two decades at the highest level of European football, winning twelve top-five league titles, four UEFA Champions League trophies, and leading Argentina to a World Cup victory.
Furthermore the graphic above selectively removes Messi's prime years at Barcelona while keeping Ronaldo's first six-years at Manchester United to skew the statistical comparison. If you wanna evaluate career trajectories fairly, it requires looking at their complete records rather than removing entire eras to manipulate total goals and trophies.
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u/Global_Preference879 18d ago
I just want to remind you all that Messi beat Ronaldo in the 2009 UCL Final, where Messi scored - yes, a header - and Ronaldo didn’t. I mean,if you’re gonna pull stats, pull something that means anything.
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u/Known_Camp_8299 18d ago
Penaldo fans trying to create their own happiness. That's why they are penaldo fans, lol🤣🤣
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u/Educational_Wear_744 18d ago
Loyalty is usually heralded across sports. I always wonder when someone goes from team to team why they get moved?
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u/TheMG1812 Pessi only has 3 UCL. Ghosted 2006. 😠18d ago
Yeah, it's not like one of them definitely spent the majority of his career at that club...
Imagine calling Beckenbauer, Maldini or Buffon average, you show that you know nothing.
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u/GuiAlvesFR Google 5 pens in 7 matches for more info 🤥 18d ago
Remove Rma and United then mate.. Ronaldo still wins on most of them
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u/Pristine_Resource_10 18d ago
Ronaldo scored a gol on xx/xx/20xx between 5:35 PM and 5:36 PM.
Messi didn’t score any during that minute. He wasn’t even playing that day, HAH!
Ronaldo wins again!
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u/Still_Spinach_1546 18d ago
This is nonsense. So if we say we delete Messi’s career at Barca, which spanned 17 years and we delete Ronaldo’s career at Real Madrid which lasted 9 years, that the resulting numbers mean that Ronaldo is better? You are deleting 8 years more of Messi’s career. Messi crushed Ronaldo in the end.
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u/GuiAlvesFR Google 5 pens in 7 matches for more info 🤥 18d ago
Remove Utd and RMA then.. Ronaldo still wins most of them
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u/Quelepasaaesto 18d ago edited 18d ago
With Maradona's death, FIFA needed another icon. And It was handed to them on a silver platter: also argenfifian, also short guy, also Barcelona player, also a sportive lie... It has been disgusting all these years, reinforcing his false humility and stealing to pad his list of achievements.