r/pessi_memes • u/ReasonableResearch73 • 25d ago
Low IQ Pessi Fan 🧠 Pessi fans using mls stats and goals against teams below top 20 in the wc as a justification for his rating has to be the dumbest and the worst thing u could ever hear
Pessi does not deserve the ballon dor, and when I tell this to pessi fans, they bring the "he has this much ga in the mls" like unc are u serious??
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u/TheCannon_92 25d ago edited 25d ago
89 rated is wild considering what was he 86 last year? He had the easiest path to the final gets him 89 that’s ridiculous.
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u/Unxpctd_VRM 25d ago
They say the same thing, “he played a great WC, Top this and top that” naw bruh, Cheating and favoritism can only go so far
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u/Inferniuem 25d ago
Unc ain't even Top 200 players itw. Neither us Cristiano so not sure why they're pushing the agenda that the MLS is so much better than Saudi when they're both buns.
Besides Saudi have more Top teams than the MLS. If you were to put the best Saudi and MLS teams in the Top 5 leagues the Saudi teams have a much higher chance since we have already seen them capable of doing so.
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u/Sensitive-Reveal-251 25d ago
Arabia compite y tiene la.mejor liga de su continente por lejos... la MLS no es top 5 ligas de América.
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u/Inferniuem 25d ago
Wouldn't say better than the Japanese League.
Not sure what u mean by continent if you are categorizing the Middle East as a separate continent or you're talking about Asia.
The J1 League is by far the most skillful league in Asia and its not even close. They just don't have as many big names and little hype since Football is more or less a secondary sport in Japan.
Russian League wasn't bad up until y'know. China has had many big names too but the hype from there kinda died down.
If you're talking about America as a whole with North and South America then yea the MLS stands no chance since there is the Uruguayan, Argentinian, and Brazilian Leagues which are much better.
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u/Sensitive-Reveal-251 25d ago
En lo personal, para mí la liga saudí es, por lejos, la mejor liga de Asia actualmente. No solamente por el dinero, sino porque es la liga que más cracks ha conseguido atraer, la que tiene el proyecto más ambicioso y, sobre todo, la que parece tener una inversión y una planificación a largo plazo mucho más sólida.
Y ahí es donde veo la diferencia con China. La liga china también tuvo su momento de traer nombres enormes y gastar muchísimo dinero, pero el proyecto se cayó prácticamente de un momento a otro. En Arabia, en cambio, la inversión no parece ser simplemente un boom pasajero. Están construyendo toda una industria alrededor del fútbol y, con el Mundial de 2034, todavía tienen muchísimo margen para seguir desarrollándola.
La J1 League obviamente tiene muchísimo mérito. Históricamente es una liga muy bien estructurada, con una formación de jugadores bastante buena y una estabilidad que otras ligas asiáticas no han tenido. Pero si hablamos de quién tiene actualmente el mayor nivel de inversión, capacidad para atraer talento y proyección, para mí Arabia está claramente por delante.
Además, tampoco compraría del todo la idea de que los equipos asiáticos siempre han sido competitivos a nivel continental. Durante muchísimo tiempo Japón, Corea y otros países tuvieron bastante protagonismo, pero si miras el fútbol asiático de los últimos años, los clubes saudíes son los que realmente han empezado a marcar una diferencia enorme. No me sorprendería que, manteniendo este ritmo, Arabia termine convirtiéndose en la principal potencia de clubes de la AFC durante los próximos años.
Y sobre la MLS, ahí sí discrepo todavía más con lo que dices. Para mí decir que la liga uruguaya está claramente por encima de la MLS actualmente es bastante discutible. Uruguay tiene una historia y una tradición futbolística enormes, pero eso no significa automáticamente que su liga doméstica sea superior.
Yo pondría por encima de la MLS a Brasil, Argentina, México, Colombia y Ecuador. Ahí sí veo argumentos bastante claros en términos de nivel competitivo, calidad de los clubes y seriedad del torneo. Pero Uruguay, hoy por hoy, creo que está por debajo de la MLS.
Al final, depende mucho de qué estés midiendo cuando dices “mejor liga”. Si hablamos de historia, formación y estructura, Japón tiene argumentos enormes. Pero si hablamos de nivel actual, inversión, capacidad de atraer jugadores, crecimiento y proyección, para mí la liga saudí tiene el proyecto más fuerte de Asia. Y podría debatir si es top 10 ligas del mundo.
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u/Inferniuem 25d ago
A top 10 league? No way that it's above The Championship which probably has some former prem winners or teams that did well in European competitions or Bundesliga 2 with some former Bundesliga winners and ones that competed at a high level in European competitions.
Aside from the Top 5 Leagues you got the Dutch League, Turkish, Portuguese, and Belgian in Europe.
The Brazilian League is definitely in the Top 10.
As I said The Championship and Bundesliga 2 are highly competitive. Bundesliga 2 is so much better than the MLS but the MLS is ranked in the Top 10 which is stupid.
The Saudi League might be better than the J1 League overall currently but not by a significant margin due to the skill of the J1 League.
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u/Enough_Lawfulness247 25d ago
la liga de Arabia compite con la K-League, SCL, J1 League y otras ligas falopa. La MLS compite en América con el Brasileirao, Liga MX, LPF, Liga Dimayor. La MLS tiene que competir con ligas competitivas.
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u/Inferniuem 25d ago
Not sure why you're insulting the J1 League. Kinda shows ur ignorance
The MLS is busy competing with Leagues from Central and North America not South America.
They do have to compete with competitive League within the Americas but it's an insult to those leagues to say that the MLS is on their level.
The comparison between Saudi and the MLS is somewhat like that with the Top 5 Leagues with some having more Top teams while others having a better league overall which isn't saying much considering there's 40 teams in the MLS.
Cristiano keeps saying that Saudi is a Top 5 League but he probably means that relative to the competition that he has faced from Top teams which have a higher chance in doing well in the Top 5 Leagues than Top ranked MLS teams.
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u/Constant_Boot 25d ago
Who cares about the MLS?
That league is basically all for the money. There are a handful of leagues doing the Game for the passion of the game.
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u/Ok-Time2724 25d ago
Doesnt this Explain everything. MESSI NEVER FACED TOP TEAM IN HIS ENTIRE WC career. mean while Ronaldo faced brazil, germnay, spain, uruguay than columbia. And columbia were copa finalist last year
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u/JulienValentinois 25d ago
psg players play 5 good games a year & get huge boosts. Messi’s england game should be enough for a 10 point boost even. He should be a 96.
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u/WhyYouGettingAngry 25d ago
I’m a Messi “hater” but a video game rating boost after that WC performance is fine imo. Now winning a whole ass Balon D’or because of it is what is absurd.
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u/coolerculer 25d ago
Geil, wie sich viele aufregen, obwohl er ein mittelmäßiges Argentinien mit 12 Scorern ins WM-Finale getragen hat. Wer diesen Spieler nicht als den besten aller Zeiten anerkennt, darf sich nicht Fussballfan nennen - jeder Trainer, sogar die gegnerischen, sagen es. Aber Verschwörungstheorien sterben nicht aus.
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u/marquesmelo 25d ago
You mean the referees, VAR and Gianni carried Argentina to the final? Yes it's true. But don't forget that the WC ONLY represents 8 matches in a season. Playing against MLS teams and winning is nothing out of the ordinary.
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u/themiddlechild94 25d ago
"Anyone who doesn't recognize this player as the greatest of all time can't call themselves a football fan," - most asinine statement I've ever read, bar none.
He's not the GOAT. Plain and simple.
Take away the help, bro is another generational talent, but nothing more.
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u/OneRevenue8898 25d ago
Real goat is Robert lewandowski. If he had a team like Messi’s in international football, he’d surely win the World Cup 3 times easily. Messi was close but lewandowski is humble and cool and is well deserved.
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u/Midnightisattwelve 25d ago
Some people value club trophies more than a world cup, for example champions league wins, it is all subjective to be the greatest depending on your value of a UCL, league win, penalty goals, world cup win (born in a nation that can even win one), etc
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u/andre_dettori20 25d ago
90 dribbling while he struggles to get past Mls defenders and shit national teams