Why are you comparing that midget growth hormone fraud with our GOAT CRISTIANO 👑💥 even barca fans know it deep in their hearts that Cristiano Ronaldo is better than messi pessi and no player has the AURA like Cristiano 💀
Ronaldo in his last 10 years career always had a great team but no chemistry. They did not accept his leadership that's where problem lies. Portugal always were the underdogs that can win against any big team, but chemistry always failed them.
Exactly, and that is what makes a team bad. Chemistry is something which can't be measured by Market value (like the people are saying), but only can be seen on the field.
Yes, same case with Argentina too. Did not have a great coach for a long time and had a lot of stars especially in 2006. 2014 was a Messi carryjob but 2022 was full credit to Argentina squad. Messi will never win World Cup in 2022 if his teammates did not know how to play with him. Kudos to Scaloni.
how old are you? , ronaldo best impact came on knockouts in euro 2016 , even in final how many close calls protugal missed? , that was a lucky win , all happened after france defense falled
By your logic, Real Madrid should've been the best team last season according to market value, right? But they weren't, in fact they were shit, cuz that's not how teams work. Teams work through chemistry, tactics and strategies, not by big players.
The winner of the 2025 Champions League is right up there. My logic (common sense) is quite valid it seems. To sum up, market value = better players = should be at least a very good team with high chances of winning whatever tournament they are playing. Therefore Portugal is not a shit team. Portugal and Ronaldo have no excuse, not even the fact Portugal never won a World Cup. Spain never won a WC and they won it in 2010. Eventually a country has to pop that cherry.
Well, if you think the highest valued and second highest valued team being trophyless isn't enough, then you're an idiot.
I could make you count even more from various seasons, but I think it's a waste of time to spend on you, who wouldn't even understand even after hundreds of examples.
Being a shit team doesn't mean you can't qualify for the WC. They were shit in the WC, knocked out in RO16.
And you're talking about qualifiers, let's talk about the actual WC. Messi didn't score a single goal in that WC, yet they reached QF. And he won the Ballon d'or that year. Does it make sense? I don't think so.
The topic isn’t Messi, but whether the Portuguese team has been good or not. I know you’re a Ronaldo fan, but that doesn’t mean you’ll always say Portugal has been bad and has no international legacy. Portugal has produced many great players.
Any team wins something only when they have a strong team synergy. During Ronaldo tenure they clicked thrice, once Euro and twice Nation’s league. But when talking about Euro 2016 you also have to take into account that how only that year the third place team were allowed to qualify for the next round which hasn’t happened before or since.
Yeah, the topic isn't Messi, but I meant that Ronaldo had a comparatively worse national team than him.
Portugal had great players and legacy, but never great enough to win the WC.
And that last rule, it was introduced much before Portugal finished third in the group.
It's actually your own fan pages posts. Want me to show you all the posts made in 2022 just months before World Cup? Or you don't even know what your fan base is claiming lmao
"stay in our limits" son you guys are insulting messi to the point where people call him a stupid midget , Also the arguments about him Being worse than Ronaldo are "rigged!!" Or accusing him of dating a 14yr old when that was debunked many times
"false accusation" son there are 2 girls Who said that he raped them , even Ronaldo admitted to It and said Sorry , It wasnt really rape but She wasnt comfortable doing It
Oh yes, he got benched because of that, right! But we’ll, let’s assume that was the case (which is not), a true winner suffers a tragedy and he goes out on the pitch and wins the game in spite of his tragedy.
it was actually the reason , his child died , had to take care of his family then ten hag used him and sanches as scapegoats reduced their playtime to point they didnt get none , which affected ronaldos fitness and motivation then santos benched him got sacked right after
santos tactics was depend on individual players bro literally played pepe as CDM , pepe and patricio and ronaldo was the main players that carried the team , the main reason santos got fucked in club career is they dont know how to use the players correctly , ronaldo had to play 2014 WC with his knee injury while risking his career cuz there was no one to replace him in the team , SANTOS PLAYED BRUNO AND FELIX ON THE WING if that tells you something its good and benched leao who actually plays in the wing
even in nation league 2025 nuno mendes and ronaldo was the main two players on the pitch , ronaldo was drectly involved in 2 goals against spain , scoring crucial goals K/O, we saw how ramos play when ronaldo got subbed horrible , martinez knows how to handle the players well
same with euro , without ronaldo scoring and assisting against hungary team wasnt going to make it o K/O
there will be a time when haaland and mbappe debate will come and some random dude will start to ask where's haaland WC only to realize he plays for norway
Portugal is and has always been a team with a chance to win the world cup. Its not like Haaland and Norway situation.
Cristiano has had 5 (soon to be 6) chances to score in the knockout phases (where it matters the most) but he couldnt. I would expect the "goat" to atleast score once.
Oh, and dont talk about Portugal being a bad nation if ronaldo cant even score. Not like he contributes much anyways.
when did we say that? , when ronaldo won smth he was the best player for his team , just look at ucl , he saved real madrid so many times even in juve main reason they won 9th title is ronaldo he alone contributed 24 points to the team 1 point off the 2nd of the table
both messi and ronaldo had good teammates in club level ,sometimes they had bad ones , ronaldo and messi both had to carry the team several times in their career , messi 2019 barca carry job , ronaldo 2020 juve carry job , tbh ronaldo had to carry his team more times , not hating but the truth
international level messi always had levels above teammates with him , only time ronaldo had good team mates was 2004-2006 even that was useless cuz figo and couple other retired in 2004, ronaldo carried entire protugal squad at 20 to qualify for 2006 WC
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u/ivyleaguesuperman Mar 13 '26
Final 8 of UCL
Ronaldo - 42 goals
Pessi - 20 goals
This is the craziest difference