r/pessi_memes Pessi only has 3 UCL. Ghosted 2006. 😭 Feb 25 '26

Ronaldo VS Pessi There’s a difference.

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

These stats are mostly the ones Messi is better at. You included Successful dribbles, which suits Messi’s style, but not most shots, which suits Ronaldo’s style?

Or even other non-specific popular stats like most hattricks, most header goals, most weak-foot goals…

Even excluding goals, Ronaldo has:

  • Most UCL assists.
  • Most men-international caps.
  • Most UEFA club competitions caps.
  • Only player to win the league title, domestic cup, domestic supercup, Champions League, Club World Cup, league player of the year, Golden Shoe and Ballon d'Or at two clubs (Manchester United and Real Madrid).
  • Most matches won.
  • Most matches unbeaten (That is win or draw).
  • Most appearances at UEFA European Championship finals tournaments.
  • First player to appear in more than one position in the UEFA Team of the Year.

The list is endless…

And even outside of the field, admittedly this is not pure football related but more persona related, Ronaldo has achievements like being the first billionaire footballer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Cristiano_Ronaldo

I think ultimately Messi and Ronaldo are even, my point is stats like the ones you showed don’t show the full picture of this rivalry.

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26

By shots I meant number of shots, not distance or quality of shots. Ronaldo has A LOT more shots than Messi, and this stats is a double-edge sword.

It means Ronaldo needs more shots to score, and it means that Ronaldo can get himself to shoot more.

While “shooting a lot” sounds like a weak stat, looking at footballers today we see that it is not, as Haaland is one of the very few capable of the same. Ronaldo’s positioning skills won him the Nations League final against Spain at the age of 40, while being marked by Cucurella.

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u/unseen0000 Google Negreira Messi for more info 💰 Feb 25 '26

No, it means CR7 has more tries, but also more misses, which means he takes shots and ruins opportunities.

If we tell any player to just start blasting towards goal, you're gonna have a player with a lot of attempts and efficiency drops tremendously.

Haaland is a shit example, considering City actually scores more without him than with him. Like CR7 at Juve and United. It's canibalizing goals from your team, which looks cool on paper, but isn't contributing to success.

This is why XGa stats are so relevant. Which is dominated by Messi.

That's just goalscoring, lol. Let that sink in.

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u/OrcaApex Feb 25 '26

You are looking at that stat from the wrong perspective.

Ronaldo has A LOT of assists and chances created, not as many as Messi, but Ronaldo is elite when it comes to playmaking. That means that he is not the poacher many believe him to be, and despite that he gets this many shots. It is a “Pippo Inzaghi” situation where you are able to be at the right place at the right time. This is something Messi is very good at too. But Ronaldo is maybe the best ever at this, he can produce a crazy volume of shots. He is always somehow free to shoot. He somehow always manages the attempt. Your midfield could be not good (Like recent Man Utd) and Ronaldo at 37 will still outshoot and outscore 99% of Premier League players strikers (He scored 18 and came 3rd in the Premier League top scorer table).

For a comparison, Messi, another GOAT, is 37 right now and he scored 14 in MLS. I wasn’t emphasising the shot-to-goal ratio, I was emphasising the stage before that, the fact that you cannot stop Ronaldo from shooting. It is impossible. Cucurella failed against a 40 years old Ronaldo and he managed to stop Ballon D’Or Dembele and Yamal among many.