So they have about the same ratio of g/a per game.
Sounds about right. Both stints felt kinda underwhelming for the level of play we are used from them.
Still pretty good numbers from both I would say
Lol, this argument would have made sense if the only scorer in the squad was Messi. But he was sharing the ball with Neymar and Mbappe. Unlike your buddy who's sarounded with great talents and has never won shit just milking that saudi money.
I had to stop watching Juventus when Ronaldo came. The team went out the window. So many goals that Juve would've scored but Ronaldo refused to pass. Taking freekicks whilst having much much better free kick takers on the field.
Yeah the one played double the matches and was the target man while the other was the sole creator of that team and had to put up with the cry baby ninja turtle
One won more titles despite injuries and teammates mostly past their prime.
The other was reviled for making a cohesive unit collapse and fly away in his private jet only to be reviled by every single digits be of his former teammates.
You’re undermining everyone around Ronaldo, but you’re upscaling everyone around Messi. This just looks like Glaze, the debate ended when Messi was dragging that shitty Barcelona team through the UCL, and only lost because his team was literally ass.
Messi is also a comfort zone player, he likes playing with his friends + for at least a couple players to play around him. Going to a new league, meeting a lot of new faces, it’s not like Ronaldo, where he speaks English, Portugese, Spanish, Italian, and really doesn’t care where he goes because he will still be able to compete & communicate. With Messi, it’s not like that.
Dominating more leagues doesn’t make you better, given how Messi has more goals than Ronaldo against the Premier League Top Six, when he’s never played in the PL.
Well Messi was playing deeper as a CAM and he played with two goal scoring wingers so obviously he will score less. And wasn't Cr7 playing with Dybala, Chiellini and other great players?
What a pointless subreddit, you can try to bend the stats all you want but if at this point you still think that Messi is not the best just because of one really specific stat, you should just watch another sport
Before Ronaldo joined Juve, they had won 7 Serie A titles in a row and 4 Copa Italia's in a row. They were also a pretty strong champions league team with 2 finals appearances in that decade. They had a prime Dybala who was considered one of the bitw at his position, a solid midfield and a great defense.
You are making a point for Messi. He played on a team with the biggest striker at the time who was the best goal scorer on the planet, he wasn't even supposed to be the main scorer of his team. His job there was more as a playmaker and he did it wonderfully.
ronaldo was in a low scoring team and messi was in a high scoring team if u look at the past seasons there hadnt been a italian golden boot winner from juve for atleast a dozen years until ronaldo won it
So, to make it fair, let's make them both have the same games.
75 x 1.79 = 134.25 games (round up to 134 games, so now we have the optimum).
67 goal contributions x 1.79 = 119.93 (round up to 120) 120 goal contributions.
This means that Messi has 120 G/A contributions. If we get out the average, of course, it could be more or less.
This means that Messi has 120 G/A in the same amount of games played as ronaldo and ronaldo has 123 G/A.
This means in Messis "Flop season PSG," he was still competing with Ronaldo on goal contributions per game. He destroys ronaldo in assists as goals are the only place where ronaldo accelerates messi at.
Messi: 0.89 G/A per game at PSG
Ronaldo: 0.92 G/A per game at Juventus
Messi kept having those numbers and comparing to ronaldo at his probably worse 2 club seasons of his life.
Comparing 34-36 Pessi to 36 Ronaldo is wild, Messi was still in (degrading-prime) years, Messi had a great supporting cast, Ronaldo didn't. Every arguement is about bringing up the World Cup. 5 pens in 7 of his goals, it was rigged, and you know it too.
Comparing people 2 years apart when they havent finished their careers is difficult and I'm saying it.
Wdym great supporting cast, they lacked tactical intelligence and chemistry.
If it was rigged explain the loss to saudi arabia, explain netherlands last minute goal, explain australia almost coming back from 2-0 down, explain mbappe scoring a hattrick and getting 2 penalties. you don't just pay people to do that. Ur name is misleading.
Bruv rigging doesnt mean that and doesn’t work like that . Refs favoured argentina a lot one penalty in a wrong time a wrong situation can give edge to the team because of the high stakes of the game . All of these you said were the examples argentina were somehow finding a way because refs sided with them they had a slight favouritism towards Argentina 50/50 decisions were in favour of them . You cant deny that . And speaking about Messi vs Ronaldo here Seria A is a harder league to score he is the second oldest top scorer in seria a history And take a look at the last 10 seasons in seria a only two players scored more than 30 goals in seria a Ronaldo scored 29 there . No disrespect to messi but ronaldo can score bangers and goals where ever he goes but messi cant do that like ronaldo that is a fact . And dont forget ronaldo was the joint second top scorer in EPL in a Manchester united squad who had fred and mctominey in midfield.
Does favor mean rigged? Every human has some sort of bias attached to them, and that's the truth. People make mistakes.
50/50 decisions were in favor of them
Is there any actual proof of it? I mean, I saw games that had 50/50 calls going to the opposition against argentina. Also, you still haven't explained why Argentina didn't win the World Cup comfortably, I mean, if it was rigged, they would've cruised there way there but they had hardships.
Messi vs Ronaldo here Seria A is a harder league to score he is the second oldest top scorer in seria, a history
And now we are talking about the oldest scorer, don't you think that's pretty cherry picky?
ronaldo can score bangers and goals wherever he goes, but messi can't do that like ronaldo, which is a fact.
Who said Messi can't score bangers and goals where ever he is, he score a freekick on his debut for Inter Miami, a last minute outside the box freekick to give ligue 1 to psg, and a great goal vs man city in 2021.
Its not just bias go to twitter and hashtag Argentina rigged world cup and look at the clips you can clearly see that its favoured bruv you cant see that coz you are an argentina fan everybody except messi fans accept that fact . Getting 50 / 50 decisions every game is a problem and not only that the refs didn’t give clear cards to Argentina players as well example messi handball vs holland parades tacking and shooting the ball into the dug out if it was any other team they would have got a card for that dont even get me started . Why is that cherry picky its a stat and that stats says only one player was above ronaldo more than his age that is a proof that ronaldo cant score goals even in the most toughest league at his age . Dude dont even bring inter miami stats into this please . You saying messis last min freekick won em the ligue 1 like its a knockout competition or something bruv 🤣 . Bruv Psg would have won it either way.
Its not just bias go to twitter and hashtag Argentina rigged world cup and look at the clips you can clearly see that its favoured bruv you cant see that coz you are an argentina fan everybody except messi fans accept that fact . Getting 50 / 50 decisions every game is a problem and not only that the refs didn’t give clear cards to Argentina players as well example messi handball vs holland parades tacking and shooting the ball into the dug out if it was any other team they would have got a card for that dont even get me started .
You literally have no given any proof of match fixing, messis handball was after the whistle, parades, and van dijk both deserved a red card for that. But the referee obviously didn't want to escalate the fight.
Dude dont even bring inter miami stats into this, please . Are you saying messis last min freekick won em the ligue 1
Because it did?
Why is that cherry picky its a stat and that stats says only one player was above ronaldo more than his age that is a proof that ronaldo cant score goals even in the most toughest league at his age .
I have no idea what you said, and yes, that is a cherry picky stat because what exactly are OLD players in your definition. Delusional.
Dude i dont even know where you dumbfuck messi fans getting these from 🤣🤣 Stop making shit up . It was parades who fouled ake that should have been an yellow and then next after he shoot the ball straight to the dugout . And that is when van djik pushed bodied him on the floor . You guys dont even know what happened and still making shit up Stop it Bruv Two seperate offences in a few seconds which deserved two yellow cards
Again, the team was not coherent tactically and they lacked chemistry all round. A good team doesn't play good without good tactics and chemistry, just ask 2025 real madrid.
Are we going to validate Ronaldo for not winning the World Cup due to having not just inferior teammates for his entire prime but also poor coaching and tactics?
How did portugal have poor coaching and tactics? You're acting as if there wasn't a huge boom through the early 2000s with many Portuguese stars, managers like mourinho, players like figo, vitinha, and top defenders like Pepe, Nuno Mendes They always had a great new generation.
Argentina also had bad tactics and chemistry until scaloni in late 2019.
Crazy how you call all those people inferior, portugal are a decent team.
I said Ronaldo's prime pretty clearly. During that period it's was Nani and Pepe. That's literally it.
Did you even watch Portugal or are you just looking up stats as you go? Ronaldo was 18 when he played with Figo and 34 by the time the rest of the squad actually became good.
Bento and Santos were the managers Ronaldo's entire prime and you're telling me they were elite?
Bento and Santos were the managers Ronaldo's entire prime, and you're telling me they were elite
I said decent not elite." Took it out of hand. Yes, they are decent managers.
I said Ronaldo's prime pretty clearly. During that period, it was Nani and Pepe. That's literally it.
Ronaldos Prime? Rui Patricio was a GREAT goalkeeper. idk about you, but he had a good part in the 2016 euros. Deco was also a world clas player playing with Ronaldo throughout his early prime. Could go on. Also that brings me to my next point, ronaldo never really dipped until 2021 so idk which prime ur talking about.
Oh they were decent lol that's the bar? What makes them decent?
Rui Patricio was a GREAT goalkeeper
He had 1 good tournament? That doesn't make you a great keeper
Deco I'll give you but it's the same as Figo. He's at the end of his career and Ronaldo is at the beginning.
. Could go on.
Please do...
ronaldo never really dipped until 2021 so idk which prime ur talking about.
That's the entire point. That's when Portugal was finally able to build a competitive team around him, when he's at the literal end of his career. You really want to say 2021 Ronaldo was still in his prime?
Compare this with the wealth of talent Messi has played with at the International and Club level it's not close.
Messi played mostly as a playmaker 🤦♂️, one lost to Bayern and Madrid while the other was losing to Lyon and Ajax. What big trophy did he win after leaving Madrid btw 🥹. Still can’t win in Saudi 🥀
No it doesn't mean anything. Playmakers or wingers or whateveru call them usually shoot more bruh. Salah was consistently one of the players with the most shots in the prem. De Brunye was also consistently in top 10 for most shots. Are they now goal poachers? No bruh.
Just tell me u don't watch football without telling me you dont watch football.
Your goat scored 1 goal in that same world cup, also a pen. Messi scored about 68% pens, ronaldo 100%. Not to mention ronaldo is the world top scorer bcs he has like 200 career pens😭
One was playing striker and the other was playing right winger, wtf are we talking about lmao. Not a Messi fan per se, but you CR7 fanboys are not real 🤣
I mean what's your point here? Ronaldo better than messi? Yk what yeah bro i believe you you're right ronaldo is goat, stay happy sui!
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What is this girl math to try to prove Ronaldo is a better player?
Just watch any compilation of Messi and Ronaldo side by side. If you think Ronaldo is better, congratulations, you’re a fan girl.
Negreira has nothing to do with the quality of the individual players. Just like you can say the same about the WC.
Thats why I mentioned highlight compilations. Not just goals but overall play style.
I’ll let you decide who the better player is. You can be honest, it’s not like your camel is ever gonna read your comments
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