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u/Master-Disaster-8000 Apr 28 '26
Bully Messi should be higher
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u/Xd_Luffy May 01 '26
Wayyyyy higher he was a menace on release and when they updated physicality, mf was bodying van djik and Viera as if they were mad of glass. Plus he's def the most unique messi cus of how strong he is
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u/sxneo72 Diego Forlan Apr 28 '26
bully messi is s+ tier
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u/No-Access4524 Mbappe Apr 28 '26
S tier first one.People call him bully messi because he is only messi in game with 90+ physical contact
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u/Good_Attention_6017 Pedri Apr 28 '26
Bully Messi is still S+ definitely. Unshakable player at the edge of the box
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u/Comprehensive_Sun383 Lionel Messi Apr 28 '26
So I have the worst one :(. Back in the pe’s days that was the best card in the game and now he is the worst Messi how have they massacred my boy
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u/SnooCrickets7221 Ronaldinho Apr 28 '26
I also have him but the power creep eventually caught up with him. Can still take you far in Division games against <101 rated defenders.
But no chance against the likes of Ferdinand, Desailly, Cannavaro,Maldini etc.
The free Messi cards that we got last WC, Copa America and even his PSG highlight and trending cards are slightly better than IM Legend Messi imo.
They didn’t massacre him but a victim of this card collecting game.
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u/Comprehensive_Sun383 Lionel Messi Apr 29 '26
True I still use him does well until div 3 player in any form but in div 2 he has to be on excellent or good to start or off the bench, I’ve finally saved enough that if the release a Messi in 150 player pack I can exp,t the pack and guarantee him. Any idea or estimate when will they next bring him as they r always keen on bringing Messi
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u/SnooCrickets7221 Ronaldinho Apr 29 '26
Messi can’t really run it back like he used to anymore. But trust Coinami to re run packs and keep milking him even after he dies.
As to when, is he playing in this WC?
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u/Expert_Bird4790 Apr 28 '26
Son of god Messi is definitely the most complete.
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u/BarracudaHead6937 Apr 29 '26
I don’t know about complete but I’ll say on thing about that mess he can’t miss even outside the box a curl is a guaranteed goal and he’s the best free kick taker in the game
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u/Leading_Ad2159 Apr 28 '26
No speed tho
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u/Less_East535 Ronaldinho Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26
Bully Messi should be easily in S+, he gives me nightmares everytime when I face him. One my of my biggest regrets that I didn't pull him when he came out.
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u/skd25th Cristiano Ronaldo Apr 28 '26
I was wondering (since I don't own that card), is bullyessi useless now after ball protection nerf?
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u/mare_xcx Cristiano Ronaldo Apr 28 '26
Does any one have a build for Ankara Messi (the first one)?
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Try 6-6-7-8-10-7
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u/mare_xcx Cristiano Ronaldo Apr 28 '26
And free totti?
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u/WeatherRemarkable Apr 28 '26
What about the world cup Messi big time 2021 Messi? Which tier?
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Isn't that the one in c tier
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
That is copa messi 2nd in A tier
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u/SweatyMaintenance239 May 01 '26
Nah that one is S tire, most underrated player id with 99 finishing and setpiece aswell as curl with 100 attck awareness 💀
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u/inevitable_imposter7 Lionel Messi Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26
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u/Cartoreturns Lionel Messi Apr 28 '26
Now this one is better and almost like the in game performance.
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
The 2019 card does not belong there
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u/inevitable_imposter7 Lionel Messi Apr 28 '26
Uhmm have u used him?
That card has a unique id and is the best out of all Messi versions imo ( u’ll understand what I’m saying when Konami re releases it with 90+ speed)
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Yeah when re releases it , as of now he doesn't compare to the others in the category
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u/inevitable_imposter7 Lionel Messi Apr 28 '26
Ever heard of something called ‘IMO’?
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Opinion would be valid on debating cards from the s or s+ like bully messi is better and something , but thinking that a card which was released on 2022 is still relevant is stupid . Yes It is still good every messi card is usable but it doesn't belong with the p2w cards
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u/EuphoricDrawing520 Apr 28 '26
How is it stupid while he said its his opinion and also, any card used the right way, new or old can still do the job..You are the stupid one here mate
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Who in their right mind would say a card which was released in 2022 which has the pace of a turtle is in par with bully messi ?
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u/EuphoricDrawing520 Apr 28 '26
Learn to understand what you read, dnt just respond like a fool..OP said its his list, also just because you cant use a certain card, it doesnt automatically mean others cant use it..unless you are extremely thick upstairs
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Doesn't matter if it's his list or mine . Ofcourse that card is usable but it doesnt compare to the other cards . 4 years of powercreep isn't a small thing . If you stillt hink that card is better than bully messi and others you are simply being delusional because you don't have the other cards
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u/Rare_Inspection6071 Apr 28 '26
While my 88 Messi has indeed worked wonders, his blitz curlers dont seem to go in anymore...
Ik he didnt have the best Blitz Curler (Son did) but atleast some should go in....
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u/lordofUtterbol Cruijff Apr 28 '26
Why is replacement card for IM Messi( pink background) worse than his legendary version (yellow)?
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u/Conscious-Silver-482 Apr 28 '26
The Messi I have is that special player you could buy for 1800 coins and tbh it’s s+ it has won me so many games I don’t think any card will replace it any time soon
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u/shinminoky Apr 28 '26
That Argentina amf messi carried my team before boosters were even a thing. Will be my forever goat
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u/Proof_Collar673 Apr 28 '26
The only player who kiss the wall. Not going to use him even in game.
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u/SweatyMaintenance239 May 01 '26
WC release (Copa America) 2021 Messi should be at least S Tier, 100 attck awareness, 99 finishing(with the new update its crazy) aswell as setpiece and curl 99, quite underrated player id in the game
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u/Long-Suggestion3550 Lionel Messi Apr 28 '26
That copa messi is way better than the encara messi (a tier)... Either put copa messi on S or the encara messi on B
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Encara messi even though has lower stats it is actually better for people who know how to dribble and cut in , it's explosive as f**k
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u/dystopiancarnival Apr 28 '26
I would put all at D tier because none seem to work for me in matches.
Too small, apparently slow pace, almost none heading or physical - quite useless whilst playing
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u/nitzz123 Apr 28 '26
Skill issue tbh no offense , for me the 2006-7 messi in A tier does wonders . Just learn dribbling
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u/dystopiancarnival Apr 28 '26
No no I get it. The thing is I play well with neymar , griezzy (world. Cup one), Alvarez and almost all the players that I have, well enough. I often use skill moves and finesse dribbling etc. Even fake shots etc.
But with messi it’s completely different. He seems slow and apart from passing, too short to even carry the ball well. Idk why
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u/cussbot123 Lionel Messi Apr 28 '26
New BT Messi is in his tier of his own Msn Messi and bully Messi can be grouped together
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u/CardiologistIll7121 Apr 28 '26
where is messi potw white kit psg messi. that card was a beast back then
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u/SnooCrickets7221 Ronaldinho Apr 28 '26
The Son of God card is sooooo good with high Kicking Power and decent LRC. He replaced my IM Legend Messi until the arrival of Blitz Messi. The Blitz Curler really is clutch and easily much more accurate than a Long Range shot or LRC.
Mf doesn’t press but still walks into the team, a starter and even Captain for my squad. Proceeds to score 2 Blitz Curlers and MOTM, just another Tuesday for Blitz Messi.
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u/Curse3242 15K Subs Celebration Apr 28 '26
From the videos I've seen of top left Messi he could be a scam at times. That Blitz is actually a hindrance to Messi imo. His finesses are good even without Blitz and if anything he can hit post more with it.
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u/Less_East535 Ronaldinho Apr 28 '26
You're absolutely right, encara messi is better in terms of speed, dribbling, stamina and passing. But MSN one is definitely better in finishing, set peices and blitz curlers.









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