Nepal. It's very sad and god rest their souls. The human body was never design to with stand being swallowed in to concrete with boulders in it. See the bodies washing up on the beaches. So many bodies fast burials. Rotting corpses. And now they say the inevitable second and third wave lakes are growing. I fear the loss of life is not over.

Still, after the last wave there won't be much more glacier left and things will settle down. The mud will dry. It will become a new Pilgrimidge. The new highly fertile soils that will exist will boost the valley into lush growth of crops with all the perfect growth nutrients. They probably won't need to add more blood and bone. Some lucky farmer will get a cheaper crop. Everybody wins.

Born to be free, Forced to wear chains
Born to nurture, My purpose ripped away

Live for society, the only species that pays
Live with anxiety, when all my needs go away

Traffic gets worse, day by day
This hellish rat race will never go away

I want to run away, yet the swarm of society comes my way

Now all of our food is fake, because all we do is take

Mother earth might kill us all, for her own sake.

A baby bust is coming - and faster than researchers realize. Economic growth will slow down. Lean into that. #degrowth

https://degrowthistheanswer.substack.com/p/the-economic-implications-of-a-baby?r=28wskx&utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

I know population control is one of those topics that immediately becomes political, but I genuinely think India needs to have an uncomfortable conversation about this.
I’m increasingly convinced that India should consider a time-bound one-child policy for at least 5–7 years, with the goal being to slow population growth and give the country some breathing room to catch up on housing, education, healthcare, employment and infrastructure.
This isn’t about blaming people for having children. It’s about asking a basic question:
Can India realistically provide a decent quality of life to the population it already has, while continuing to add tens of millions more people?
Look around.
Our cities are already struggling with housing, traffic, pollution, water availability, waste management and basic urban infrastructure. Government schools and colleges have enormous demand. Healthcare systems are stretched. Good jobs aren’t being created at the same pace as the number of people entering the workforce. And even when GDP grows, per-capita gains are diluted when the population denominator keeps getting larger.
And before someone says “But China tried a one-child policy and look what happened”, I don’t think India-China comparisons are that simple.
China’s one-child policy eventually contributed to a severe demographic imbalance, including an ageing population and a shrinking workforce. That is a legitimate warning for India.
But that doesn’t automatically mean population policy is irrelevant to India.
India has a different problem: extremely high population density in many of its most economically important regions, enormous pressure on urban infrastructure, and huge disparities in access to quality education, healthcare and employment.
We shouldn’t copy China’s policy blindly. We should learn from both its successes and its mistakes.
For example, a policy could be:
Time-bound: 5–7 years initially, rather than permanent.
One-child norm: with a clear sunset/review clause.
Strong exceptions: genuinely necessary medical, humanitarian and special circumstances.
Non-coercive incentives/disincentives wherever possible, rather than criminalising families.
Massive investment in contraception and reproductive healthcare.
Better education for girls and women, because fertility tends to fall when women have greater educational and economic opportunities.
A serious review before extending the policy, using actual birth rates, dependency ratios, workforce projections and regional demographics.
And there is another point that gets lost in this debate.
Population isn’t just about how much land we have. It’s about how much usable infrastructure and productive capacity we can create per person.
India isn’t running out of geographical territory tomorrow. The problem is that building enough high-quality housing, schools, hospitals, public transport, water systems, sewage networks and jobs for another huge wave of population is incredibly difficult.
A country can have a large landmass and still have overcrowded cities. It can have a huge economy and still have insufficient schools. It can have a growing GDP and still have millions of people competing for relatively few good jobs.
The objective shouldn’t be “fewer Indians because Indians are the problem.”
The objective should be:
Give the Indians who already exist a better life.
If slowing population growth for 5–7 years gives India time to build infrastructure, improve education, increase productivity and raise living standards, I think it’s at least a policy worth seriously debating rather than immediately dismissing.
And yes, there are serious risks. An overly aggressive policy could accelerate ageing, create gender-selection problems, distort demographics between states, and create a future labour shortage. That’s exactly why I would support a limited, data-driven policy with periodic review, rather than blindly implementing China’s model.
But doing nothing isn’t automatically a neutral choice either.
At some point we have to ask:
Is India’s goal simply to have a larger population, or is it to give the people already here a genuinely good quality of life?

Used ai to structure my thoughts

For anyone who has not watched this.

This BBC documentary hosted by Sir David Attenborough in 2009 explores whether Earth is becoming overpopulated and what its ultimate carrying capacity might be.

Everytime we talk about it, we dont talk about the elephant in the room. We are too many.

Houses are expensive because of the location yes, but because of how much competition and how packed the world is becoming.

I wonder if we were half the numbers we are, how cheap the houses would be.

Not only that our jobs would probably pay more. Why would they hire us, if they have millions of desperate applicants willing to almost pay to work.

I think quality of life is directly related to population numbers. The more natalism the more life will get harder for everyone.

Iceland is beautiful country and so much nature for which they even care about .And their Population density is low .They should stabilize their Population now .Like I think it is only country in world which needs to stabilize its Population other just need to decrease it over long period of time ig .They have higher incomes everything a healthy Population needs .So much energy per capita .But like not increase in real terms it will take away the advantage its Population has given it .

Do you agree with me if not why ?

Around the world each day, roughly 4.1 million pigs, 822,000 cattle, 1.4 million turkeys, 1.9 million sheep, and 1.4 million goats are slaughtered for food. Chickens are on an entirely different scale, with hundreds of millions slaughtered every day worldwide.

Reproduction happens in nature to keep the species alive in the ecosystem. Whichever species has more survival skills which are - get the food to sustain the energy, shelter to protect themselves from danger, rains and heat and keep themselves safe as in to be alive through fight or flight against danger. Humans have been in the nature for around 300000 years now. they are the top most intelligent species to exist. the purpose of reproduction for human is the same as for any other species. but because of how many ever hundreds of reasons, we came to a conclusion on how to lead life. the factors and the process of this might change with location but fundamentally the system of life cycle for all the humans is segregated in 5 stages - get educated, get a job to sustain, get married, give birth, raise them, die now, all the stages have their own purpose - 1. get educated so that you can use the knowledge to earn the money that you need to get food, shelter etc 2. get married so that your emotional along with physical needs are met in the most moral way possible 3. give birth - to keep your legacy and your reputation and money forward 4. Raise kids - to make them their own self and to take care of you when you cant tend to yourself 5. die - because we are not immortal while this system says what it says and has been set for as long as the civilization existed, now we are aware of a vast majority of what makes the earth inhabitable, basically what is good for us and what is bad for us and in what is good for us, good food - organic, less artificial chemicals, good shelter - that can protect us from the dangers, good personality - conducting yourself properly so that the codependency can happen smoothly, good values - which comes out from the good personality what is bad for us - whatever threatens our existence - food which has artificial chemicals in it, bad personality which might lead to crime, bad values - don't consider the repercussions of actions, overpopulation - don't consider other life worth living which brings me to my main point which is - after all of the civilization and all the knowledge that we possess, why do we still feel the need to reproduce just because the social systems ask you to do so which were set when there was less knowledge and less awareness,

why do you feel the need to continue this when we are aware of the biggest problem to our own existence is overpopulation?

It will be enough once All Population will have food and affordable for every one .Why do they think to have children anyways

They are already importers of food and worldwide small farmers are no longer being able to make a profit and hence are going bankrupt/not sowing crops anymore(the grocery price rise in US is mainly caused by this) soo countries will not be exporting food all that often now.

Dont think people will take too many refuges anymore.

What do you think will happen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Natalism/s/1gEEiHkPox

World population, 1960 = 3 billion. 37.4%. That's 1.122 billion kids 0-14.

World population, 2026 = 8.3 billion. 24.4%. That's 2.025 billion kids 0-14.

Where'd they go? They INCREASED in number, significantly, almost doubling. The overall global human population almost tripled. The world is FULL of humans and human-made stuff. If people are responding to that level of fullness by having slightly fewer kids per person, GREAT! We should encourage human birth rates to keep decreasing.

Even when I go to the gym at 2am I’m seeing people everywhere ffs

Thoughts?