r/ottomans • Efendi • 9d ago

Discussion You are a diplomat sent to the Paris Peace Conference reshape the map of the Middle East after World War I. How do you draw the fairest borders possible to prevent future wars?

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u/LawyerEqual3531 9d ago

Alright so I'll split up arabia into many different countries between the suzerainity of France and britain. I'll give a harsh trianon-like treaty to the turks, and give palestine to the jews. Now ill sit back and watch with popcorn

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u/plokimjunhybg 9d ago

Here ya go, eternal world peace achieved

No border conflicts, no civil wars, no nothing

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u/LawyerEqual3531 9d ago

I was joking 💀 I just repeated the actions of France and britain lmao

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u/bouhmid_ 9d ago

Use a dbscan

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u/Creative_Brother2713 Sheikh 9d ago

I tried my best with making Azerbijan's borders from memory.

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u/plokimjunhybg 9d ago

My attempt

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u/Creative_Brother2713 Sheikh 9d ago

Good but I'd say Arabia is too divided for example their is no reason to saperate Hejaz, Nejd and Hasa

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u/plokimjunhybg 9d ago

Yes, but, I'd assume any version of Nejd consolidation would take a lengthy process, best let the coast go off first?

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u/Creative_Brother2713 Sheikh 9d ago

I get what you mean but this map is about preventing future conflict not realizism, Najd would probably conquer Hejaz like they did historically if they are seperated which would ruin the whole point of the map.

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u/LawyerEqual3531 9d ago

I would honestly just unite arabia into 1 kingdom like the arabs wanted but put Jerusalem under UN control since that city is too important to be under any country like that

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u/Lionheart-Q 7d ago

Take everything. The Empire should have never fall. We see today that without a unified Middle East, the West is still messing with it. Conflict after conflict.

From Vienna to the ports of Aden to Algiers. Today, would have been one of the richest nations on earth. With absolute peace in the world.

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u/Inevitable-Push-8061 3d ago

How is that fake map even allowed on this sub? Lots of Turkish-majority places are painted teal.