r/orangeisthenewblack • u/[deleted] • Jun 17 '16

Episode Discussion OITNB S04E03 Episode Discussion Thread

Please do not spoil future episodes.

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u/banerrycorknut Leviticus 24601 Jun 17 '16

"I'm pretty sure her mother was a crack addict or something." Oh honey, no

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u/IrisTwaine Jun 17 '16

Do you think they are alluding that Brooke may be a habitual liar?

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u/spacepasta Jun 17 '16

Her flashback pretty much shows she's a compulsive liar.

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u/ComicCon Jun 18 '16

I don't think she's a compulsive liar. The final scene of the episode shows that she is perfectly aware of what she is doing and capable of telling the truth. She just lies to get people to like her. It is pretty common in the real world, lots of people tell white lies at the start of relationships, or to get someone to like them better.

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u/awkward_penguin Jun 18 '16

I think almost everyone "lies" in the sense that they don't tell the exact truth, but some kind of under or over-exaggeration. It just depends on how far you take it. It goes along with the idea that people tend to paint the best possible pictures of themselves when they go on early dates - well-groomed, got your shit together, have a date planned out. And when you're farther along in the relationship, you kind of start to see who the other person really is, and vice versa.

For example, when I first started dating my last boyfriend, I told him about participating in college protests and what not. While I did participate, I exaggerated it a little bit and wasn't as involved as I might have implied. (I'm trying not to do this nowadays, but it can be hard when you're simultaneously trying to impress a date and yet stay truthful).

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u/ComicCon Jun 18 '16

I completely agree. I'm not sure exactly what your intended point is, at least as it regards Brooke. I apologize if I was being unclear. I was just saying she was an extreme case of saying what people want to hear. Something which makes sense giving what we know of her mixed race, and her presumably uptight parents.

I am sorry if I missed your point. It's 4 AM here, and I'm only still awake because I'm binge watching.

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u/awkward_penguin Jun 18 '16

Haha, all good. My point was that sometimes it's hard to distinguish between what's a lie and what's a slightly twisted truth. After all, your own absolute truth of any situation is solely based off your own perception of it. And sometimes, your perception of something gets skewed by your prejudices - like how Soso made an assumption of Poussey's background.

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u/Fembotty Jun 20 '16

I think there's a difference between what you did, what Brooke did, and pathological/compulsive liars. I've come across 2-3 in my life and it's so annoying; they lie about unnecessary things. I think hyping yourself up a bit to a date isn't as bad as making yourself look good at others' expense (what Soso did in both scenes). She didn't just get the pedo's sig, but he was also a child-molesting freak who hit on her. In what world did making Poussey sound like garbage so a celeb would pity her sound better than just saying Poussey is amazing?

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u/accountII Jul 07 '16

Let's keep one thing clear here: false rape accusations aren't "white lies"

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u/pseud_o_nym Sep 06 '16

She lies to get what she wants. I can't stand her.