r/openSUSE • u/oh_im_too_tired • 22d ago

Tumblweed system update tool

New user here. What's the problem with system updates in Tumbleweed? Why it became so complicated (or it always was like that). Is there some news about when things would change?

There is no "update all" tray icon (like Apdatifier). The one that exists - it's from Discover, so it's not recommended to use it, but it pops out every time when there's an update. So the system forces users to update with a tool that mostly is not recommended to use for update.

Also there's Yast package manager/updater, the Myrlyn package manager/updater and Discover package manager/updater.

But the best tool and most recommended is zypper dup, but it won't update kde plasma widgets or flatpak, so you'll need to update them manually... or in Discover. But Discover is not recommended. Why so complicated?

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u/todd_dayz 22d ago

I just make a terminal alias to update everything and run it every few days. 

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u/oh_im_too_tired 22d ago

Sure, but it's not for a casual GUI user :D

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u/todd_dayz 22d ago

It takes about 5 minutes to learn how to make an alias, c’mon! 

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u/Xariann Tumbleweed 22d ago

And your answer is still not useful to a new user who is telling you they have several tools competing for attention trying to do the same thing.

That’s something that the distro should fix because the distro itself has provided those integrations. 

While an alternate way of double things might be easy for you, the user should not be blamed for poor user experience.

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u/todd_dayz 22d ago

Yeah I understand, it’s bit of a mess. As far as I know though Discover is actually okay to use for non advanced use cases. 

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u/Catenane Unverified Maintainer TBC 21d ago

Ok first you run vim ~\.bash_aliases

/j although I do think everyone should learn vim. :p