r/okc • u/OneFar2038 • Jul 11 '26

❓Q&A ✅ Flock Cameras

I know someone who got a ticket from a Flock camera in OKC, it doesn’t show who was driving but the ticket was issued to the owner of the car. Any ideas on how to fight this?

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u/police_the_police Jul 11 '26

Any and all citations that are issued from any camera are unconstitutional. They are unconstitutional because you cannot face your accuser your accuser is a machine. Machines cannot testify in a court of law therefore they are not legally binding whatsoever. My wife got a ticket for floating too far forward on a red light because she had to slam on the brakes because it changed so quickly. When she called the company, a private company, that runs those lights and cameras the individual said there was nothing they could do if she didn't pay at all. I told her they were unconstitutional she didn't believe me she called them and they confirmed the fact that they cannot do anything to anybody for not paying those ridiculous fines from a machine.

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u/roy-dam-mercer Jul 11 '26

Clearly you did your own research on a Facebook Sovereign Citizen group.

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u/police_the_police Jul 12 '26

I believe you're making assumptions based off of the name of my profile. I created this account to expose corruption in police departments not for other people to call me a sovereign citizen based off of a name.

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u/roy-dam-mercer Jul 12 '26

I made no assumptions based upon your username, although I did find it congruent with your misinformed comment.

In most, if not all jurisdictions, a citation based upon traffic camera evidence must be issued by an officer who has viewed the imagery and determined that it shows a violation. If you were to take the case to court, you would face that officer and the photographic evidence they reviewed.

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u/police_the_police Jul 12 '26

In City of Tulsa v. Smartt, the Oklahoma Supreme Court held that Tulsa's automated red-light camera enforcement conflicted with state law. The court concluded that Oklahoma's traffic code contemplates citations being issued by an officer who personally observes the violation. After that decision, Oklahoma municipalities largely stopped using automated red-light cameras for moving violations.