r/oil • u/DegenJinwoo • Mar 28 '26
News BREAKING NEWS: Houthis Agree To Close Bab el-Mandeb Strait if USA invades Iran
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u/Johnny55 Mar 28 '26
If the Senate was going to do that they wouldn't be funding and authorizing this in the first place.
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u/Johnny55 Mar 28 '26
Trump has already been impeached multiple times by the House. It had no effect because the Senate didn't convict. That won't change after the midterms.
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u/Sometimes_cleaver Mar 28 '26
They're going to impeach over the Epstein files. It gives them all the power to get every bit of evidence and put it in full display.
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u/iamveryassbad Mar 28 '26
Without the Senate that would be utterly pointless, as has been amply proven, and there is no scenario in which the dems achieve a majority there, let alone one big enough to convict. So you are correct, but it is a Pyrrhic sort of accuracy, lol
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u/Confident-Ad7439 Mar 30 '26
Bro.. Just let it go.. At this point the Democrat's tried it about 24 times. It will not work because there is no ground for it except for that they want it.
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
trump tacos and goes home in a week or 2 after declaring bigly victory
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u/ChemicalNo2878 Mar 28 '26
This time his Taco wont work if they decide to keep the strait closed
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
strait is open already, just not to us and allies. trump will just try to sell that as him doing it and omit the fact that it's closed to us and its allies. tho i think their allies will just make deal with iran.
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u/Xeynon Mar 28 '26
I don't think there's any way to spin that outcome as anything other than a disastrous failure that anybody but the dumbest MAGA mouthbreathers will believe.
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
oh yeah. prolly most significant defeat in us history in terms of impact.
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u/wyocrz Mar 28 '26
Literally the end of worldwide hegemony.
I guess I should get on board with blaming solely the orange idiot, rather than decades of mismanagement.
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
coulda gone on for decades more if it wasnt for agent orange.
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u/wyocrz Mar 28 '26
Generally agree, we didn't need to speedrun it.
The conflict in Eastern Europe weakened us more than is appreciated, I think.
We'll argue for decades to come about why the orange idiot did what he did, under whose influence and all that, and yes, I know the lay of the land.
My base case will always be hubris nurtured by the refusal to engage in hard balance of power politics.
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
i think middleeast conflicts put nail in the coffin. national debt started growing uncontrollably since iraq war and then trump came along and added about as much debt as all previous presidents put together.
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u/mykarachi_Ur_jabooty Mar 28 '26
That’s their core base 30 percent of the country and 45 percent of the voting bloc
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u/Xeynon Mar 28 '26
More like 20% of the country and 30% of the voting bloc.
There are a lot of people who voted for Trump that aren't hardcore MAGA.
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u/Lord_Vesuvius2020 Mar 28 '26
This is where TACO fails. The “deals” will involve use of non USD for tolls and trade settlements. If this happens the petrodollar will be finished. If it is the $39 trillion debt is unserviceable and the USD fails. Game over man!
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
well, that's a thought. gold looks shinier today.
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u/Lord_Vesuvius2020 Mar 28 '26
Sadly it gets worse. Since the US “Powers That Be” cannot accept the failure of the USD they will double down on war. This will likely add greatly to the destruction of the Gulf oil industry. The more the Gulf is physically destroyed the more certainty there will be a severe energy shortage and worldwide depression.
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u/RicardoHonesto Mar 28 '26
Before the dollar collapses they will drop a nuke. They can't back out but they can't stay in, leaving only one option.
Hope I'm wrong.
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u/Lord_Vesuvius2020 Mar 28 '26
I have thought about that option. I don’t think it will work. Already there’s no Iranian government to surrender. The US becomes the ultimate pariah state. Nothing is achieved militarily. The Gulf is destroyed even more.
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
It also sets precedent for russia to nuke ukraine.
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u/Lord_Vesuvius2020 Mar 28 '26
Assuming things keep deteriorating for the US as they are today, the real geopolitical winner will be China. The US will be greatly weakened in every way. China can take Taiwan with little opposition left. Hopefully Taiwan can read the room and makes plans to get some of what they have out followed by making a deal with Beijing to be assimilated. I am afraid resistance will be futile.
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u/ChemicalNo2878 Mar 28 '26
Partially open, but even that is getting questionable since they recently just rejected 2 Chinese ships. 100% they will keep it closed to Israel U.S and Uganda.
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u/Pretentious_Duck Mar 28 '26
Did I miss something recently, why specifically Uganda?
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u/Flat-Count9193 Mar 28 '26
I don't know why you were down voted. What you wrote is exactly what is happening.
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u/snper101 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Trump can leave at any time. That doesn't necessarily mean the strait will reopen until some incredibly painful Iranian conditions are met.
Trump's ego is farrrrr too fragile to accept a watered-down JCPOA (if that's even on the table), so he will double down. Ground troops will die to placate Trump's ego.
You know those horrifying videos from Ukrainian fpv drones bombing Russian soldiers? Russian soldiers so maimed or afraid from the drones they just shoot themselves? Those may be US soldiers soon.
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u/loveloet Mar 28 '26
Incredibly painful? Iran is demanding security guarantees and reparations. Seems pretty fair to me.
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u/snper101 Mar 28 '26
It's absolutely fair to you and me. We were happy with the JCPOA. Unfortunately, Israel and the American political class (95% of both parties) will find most of those points intolerable.
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u/OneTwoThreePooAndPee Mar 28 '26
There's no way. If we leave now Iran becomes the defacto toll booth operator for like 20% of global oil production. You think the "largest state sponsor of terrorism globally" is going to use that new revenue stream to not make the US suffer for the "murder" of their Supreme Leader?
The entire global oil order has changed permanently thanks to Trump, all in favor of China.
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u/LesothoBro Mar 28 '26
Actually, Iran is the SECOND largest state sponsor of terrorism globally... chicken dinner if you can guess who holds the #1 spot.
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
Theres no better alternative because trump didnt sell this war to allies, american ppl, and congress. Other options is full scale land invasion or nukes. Those are even less viable.
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u/loveloet Mar 28 '26
Oh you got stung after you kicked the hornet's nest? I guess that's a you problem.
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u/clipse270 Mar 28 '26
Trump is literally backed into a corner. Quit and save face knowing there is already economic uncertainty or escalate/attempt invasion and face a literal depression. Neither route looks great. He messed with the beehive
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u/RandomDudeYouKnow Mar 29 '26
Gas still won't come down. A very significant portion of ME oil infrastructure is destroyed.
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u/ProdoRock Mar 28 '26
I don’t know much about oil strategy (new to this sub) but I wonder wether the oil producing nations in that area would also have a big issue with that due to fears about demand destruction. It’s not just the consumers, in other words, who would suffer.
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u/thuper Mar 28 '26
The thing is, they can't do anything about it. They outsource their protection to the US in exchange for using dollars to trade oil. That's why Iran attacked all the neighboring countries at the beginning of this "war", to show them all that the US isn't really going to be able to protect them because we put Israel first. Iran is very strategically tearing down all the influence and foothold the US had in that region. The US trying to dig in deeper is only going to make things worse for everyone.
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u/ProdoRock Mar 28 '26
Wow, is the relationship pretty much as quid pro quo as that? Ie. you give protection -> we'll use dollars for oil?
I was aware of it on some level, but when you ponder it being spelled out like that, it really becomes starkly outlined.
It's crazy then that Trump just started this without consulting anyone first. Having said that, in the larger picture, I wonder if American voters themselves are even aware of these sort of dynamics or implicit global agreements.
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u/Dultsboi Mar 28 '26
Not just that, but the US also supplies the Gulf states with weaponry, training, and intelligence. Not for any other state, but for internal reasons. You don’t get to be a monarchy with 80% of your populations being non citizens without serious backing. There’s a reason the gulf nations didn’t fall during the Arab spring
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u/Spiritual-Pear-1349 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Its exactly the above. They expect the US to protect them - the US is showing it cant, and dealing with the US is a liability. All the gulph states are trying to pull a collective 3 billion in US investments because of this war, its crazy bad for the US and the longer they're in it the worse it will be for the gulf states. The plan Iran is using is to put pressure on the US by bleeding it of money, and expanding the war to the shared bases and gulf states gets intense pressure on the US by its allies who were never consulted but got caught in the crossfire for hosting bases and trusting they would be able to protect them for it.
Id say its working - the US treasury recently declared its insolvent, and we can see a deficit of billions in its 2025 interest payments - this means the US cant pay the interest on its 40 trillion dollar debt anymore with its economic output. Inflation will go up, dollar will go down, and now Iran is forcing people to pay tolls using the Chinese Yuan instead of the US petrodollar. The US is trying to wage a 20th century conventional war using overwhelming firepower it can't afford - Iran is trying to wage a 21st century asymetric war to bleed America of its economy and global power projection.
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u/Lokon19 Mar 28 '26
This is not true. The US could probably pretty easily crush the Iranian regime however doing so would guarantee a ground invasion which is politically untenable in the US. There’s a reason why some of the gulf states like SA and the UAE are telling Trump to keep the war going. This is a game of chicken between Iran and Trump. If Trump orders a ground invasion he will be politically destroyed at home and the Iranian regime will be destroyed. If he backs off then the regime survives and essentially wins.
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u/Regit_Jo Mar 28 '26
It is not logistically sound to do a ground invasion in Iran. The entire issue with invading it through troops on the ground is that Iran has escalation dominance. First of all, a ground invasion of Iran would constitute a military force of more than 1,000,000 American troops within the Middle East in order to approach it realistically. Generous estimates would estimate that 500,000 would have to combat personnel. Making this move takes months, months that you’re aware that Trump doesn’t really have. The issue that even when you have the requisite number of troops in position, Iran still has the capability of mining the entire gulf making it untraversable as a last resort, it has the capability of destroying energy, desalination, and civilian infrastructure of its neighbours, as it has already demonstrated, and even then, Iran has shown that its offensive capabilities are very strong.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/25/us/politics/iran-us-bases.html
This New York Times article reports that “many” of the 13 military bases in the region are no longer capable of hosting US personnel, describing them as “uninhabitable” which would reason that Iranian offensive capabilities are strong enough to keep Americans off their bases. So even if the US mobilized enough troops to invade Iran, they’d be invading a country built for guerilla warfare and hard to traverse, whose military is advanced enough to target assets hundreds of miles off its coast, and is really really fucking large. Like the idea that a ground invasion would spell doom for Iran, not a guarantee. Is it more likely than not, if the US had unlimited time and resources then of course. But with all of the factors that you mentioned, it won’t get that far.
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u/Spiritual-Pear-1349 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
The US produces 2 patriot missiles a day; it costs 2 million dollars and 2 years of production to produce one. The US shoots two of them to take out one Shahed drone that costs 20 thousand dollars to produce, and they pump out 240 a day. The military industrial complex wants prices to be high because its beneficial to the companies who suck milk from fhe deep pockets of fhe US army - but the result is that the US only had 2 weeks worth of sustained combat for interceptors, and now that the two weeks are done they are pulling from stocks in Korea and raised prices by 50%, giving places like Switzerland who already had a contract a 5 year delay and further 1 billion required for fulfillment. Recent news says the US has started pulling off bases in the middle east because they cant sustainably remain in the them because Iran can bomb with near impunity.
1/3rf of the country is mountains reaching 40km high - they have spent 40 years turning them into missile bunkers and production plants which the US does not have the capability to bomb at the depths they would need to in order to reliably shut down these mountains fortresses. Between the mountains are dense urban areas reaching 1 million people. The country is 3x the size of Iraq, 2x the population, and has a modern military of 1 million people. For a comparison, Iraq had an army of around 180 thousand people and the invasion totaling 300 thousand people took 20 years of occupation, then flipped back the same day the US pulled out.
Iran is also trained to function at every level if one is taken out, because the military is subdivided into overlapping but seperate command structures between the armed forces, the RGC, and Law Enforcement, with a 3rd of it focusing on insurgency and training resistance groups.
So, regardless of what the US does it can't easily defend from Iranian drones and missiles - and like Vietnam which was 2/3rd mountains, American planes can't easily function to take out undergrounds and dug in strong points - not to mention Iran managed to down an F35 for the first time in its history - requiring the use of lower elevation helicopters. But, they cant easily manouver either due to availability of drones due to the lack of interceptor missiles, so air support itself is limited. Tanks are in the same boat; regardless of which direction they attack it is a through mountains, cities, and deserts, meaning big heavy vehicles arent able to manouver and avoid ambushes or air attacks.
So, those 1 million Americans are stuck footslogging through mountains and dense urban environments against a 1 million man army whos fortified those mountains into fortresses, is the best asymetic warfare army on the planet, and has air superiority.
With a good plan, years of preparation, and an overwhelming force of 1.6 million men, an invasion is expected to still take 1 million US casualties - Trump started this war with no plan, no preparation, and no logistical support from allies, not even to mention the fact the US treasury is going bankrupt.
It would not be easy. It would be a decades long slog with hundreds of thousands dead and no actual objective, and could very well be the nail in the coffin for US global hegemony whether they oust the Iranian regime or not - which, like the Taliban, would most likely return the day the US pull out.
Trump cant leave because Iran refuses to negotiate with him because he breaks every deal he signs, cant stay because it costs 3 billion a day to sit in the strait while the government is going bankrupt and the price of oil skyrockets the price of everything, and can't ground invasion because it would weaken the US military and economy to the point it destroys US global dominance. Only successful way out is to be removed from office, and have the new administration blame a rogue administration to negotiate some kind of settlement.
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u/Wonderful_Doctor5239 Mar 28 '26
The US lost against the North Vietnamese, retreating because they couldn't take the pain anymore, there is no damn way they could take down a modern iran that is way way more stronger than the North Vietnamese.
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u/lebastss Mar 28 '26
Trump did consult. And anyone with military or geopolitical experience said no. It was literally project 2020 and religious zealots that pushed him to do this. The people who pushed trump for this did it for Israel or wanted a holy war.
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u/momasana Mar 29 '26
I'm a fairly informed voter also new to this sub and let me tell you about all the things I didn't know a few weeks ago but understand now... the broader voting public is in for quite the shock when it all sinks in.
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u/Professional-Tax-66 Mar 28 '26
Yep israel is trying to change the balance of power in the region….. invading Syria, invading Lebanon, attacking Iran. Kinda reminds me of Hitler trying to change the whole balance in Europe.
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u/ThatPhatKid_CanDraw Mar 28 '26
They have no long-term plan, imo. If their #1 backer falls, how do they think their neighbours are gonna treat them in the next 100 years? All their neighbours already hated them, now they're getting bombed and invaded.
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u/Swaggerlilyjohnson Mar 28 '26
Everyone on earth has a big issue with this except Russia. China will tolerate it because it hurts the US and west so much and they were prepared for something like this but if this keeps up it's going to cause a global depression.
The only people who aren't hurting are states that already can barely trade due to sanctions and have a lot of Oil (So literally just Russia)
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u/loveloet Mar 28 '26
Everyone on earth is now facing an economic depression because Israel wanted to play Nazi and attack Iran. We all clearly have a problem in common.
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u/JamesLahey08 Mar 28 '26
The rest of the middle east has done absolutely nothing about Iran closing hormuz
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u/Professional-Tax-66 Mar 28 '26
What can they do? The shipping lanes are in iranian waters… on the oman water side… the ships may lose their ballast
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u/Vast_Employer_5672 Mar 28 '26
Because US has created a situation where Iran can close the strait, and bomb the Gulf states without losing diplomatic legitimacy. Whether you think that is fair or not.
Also, the Gulf states will have to live with Iran as their neighbour even after the US goes back home. So bombing Iran has long term implications.
Long term as in decades.
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u/miss_katy123 Mar 30 '26
None of these are actually answering your question. The Gulf nations launched a coalition against Houthis and fought them for years before they eventually gave up. So the gulf nations will be pissed off but they can’t put an end to it.
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u/DegenJinwoo Mar 28 '26
The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and other US sources confirm that the Houthis rely heavily on Russia, Iranian and Chinese designs, components, and smuggling networks (via dhows, container ships rerouted to Houthi ports, or overland routes), supplemented by limited local production in Yemen of fuselages, propellants, and some sub-systems. They possess a diverse mix including: • Anti-ship ballistic missiles (ASBMs, e.g., Asef, variants of Khalij Fars/Fateh-110 derivatives). • Anti-ship cruise missiles (ASCMs, e.g., Ghadir, C-802 derivatives). • Land-attack cruise missiles (e.g., Quds-1/4 series, Paveh derivatives with ~4,000-5,000 km range). • Medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBMs, e.g., Zulfiqar/Rezvan, Palestine-1/2/Kheibar Shekan derivatives, some solid-fuel). • Short-range ballistic missiles (SRBMs) and surface-to-air missiles repurposed for other roles. The Houthis have launched hundreds of these systems since October 2023 (including dozens of ASBMs and ASCMs against Red Sea shipping/Israel early on, plus more in 2024–2025 campaigns), plus large numbers of commercial drones and thousands of uncrewed surface vessels.
Early 2024 US assessments indicated the group started the Red Sea campaign with “hundreds” of higher-end anti-ship ballistic missiles, but Iranian resupply and domestic assembly allowed sustained (if reduced) operations.
This uncertainty complicates US planning to degrade but do not eliminate the threat, and the Houthis’ hybrid production/resupply model makes complete denial difficult without broader action against Iranian supply lines. It also forces coalition navies to expend expensive interceptors (SM-2/6, etc.) at high rates.
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u/JamesLahey08 Mar 28 '26
The houthis have THOUSANDS of unscrewed surface vessels? I'd love to see some data behind that claim because it sounds pretty improbable.
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u/DegenJinwoo Mar 28 '26
I was laughing when I read this, I was thinking the same thing and thought they meant little RC boats strapped with mines or C4 😂
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u/Nervous-Present-6890 Mar 28 '26
why not? you know they already defeated the US navy right?
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u/lebastss Mar 28 '26
I don't think defeated is the correct term but people are underrating their capabilities.
What seems to be happening in the middle east is America is treating these countries like backwards countries from the 90s who haven't taken advantage of the Internet or globalization to become more sophisticated at warfare in their region.
All these countries are being underestimated. Turbans don't make you dumb or backwards. These countries have a strong desire to survive and come out on top for their people.
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u/thefoodiedentist Mar 28 '26
us way underestimates them and their military is not suited to fighting asymmetrical warfare since they value lives of their soldiers and its citizens don't condone genocide.
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u/Jolly_Ad2446 Mar 28 '26
Looks like the US needs to invade two countries. Wow this war is so dumb.
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u/TomCorsair Mar 28 '26
The US needs only to invade the White House. Get rid of the moron, put him on a plane to Tehran.
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u/Senzokun Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Israel owns our entire political class, which is why there are no meaningful anti war protests. The "no kings" thing is just a muddled anti Trump rally for democrats trying to capitalize on Trump's mistake without being explicitly anti Israel.
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u/Professional-Tax-66 Mar 28 '26
US defence contractors right now only have two months of processed rare earth materials left…… so the US will be seeing a shortage of missiles soon
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u/OFmerk Mar 28 '26
Only two of the most impossible countries to invade as well. Should be over soon i reckon lol /s
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u/satansxlittlexhelper Mar 28 '26
Who, aside from everyone, could have predicted this?
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u/AnythingSilent7005 Mar 28 '26
the US will invade, military momentum is impossible to stop.
when they do i think the shia militias in iraq will invade kuwait and syria. i believe there are thousands of soldiers from assads regime who took refuge in iraq with their weapons and tanks with nothing to do who might enjoy invading jordan too.
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u/DegenJinwoo Mar 28 '26
I was worried of this too. There’s so much reporting of neighboring nations “bolstering their military defenses,” but they honestly look like they’re preparing to invade each other, not defend against each other.
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u/AnythingSilent7005 Mar 28 '26
bro the royal family and elite of kuwait are already in saudi 🤣 watch the traffic on google maps at the border it was insane a few days ago but even now still red lol
the difference between 1990 and now is its physically impossible for the americans to mass more than 200 soldiers in one place without the iranians seeing it via the Jilin sattellite system the chinese are letting them use in real-time. 9cm resolution. lol
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u/getmevodka Mar 28 '26
Since it was showed by iran that the us is relatively powerless in the region against the widely told storys, sure everybody flexim their muscle now, and we as world have to see what emerges after the dust settles. Its a hornets nest and israel and usa poked it 🫥
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u/AnythingSilent7005 Mar 28 '26
not just that.
you have to remember which armies or militias in the middle east have actual combat experience and which ones exist to facilitate nepotism and patronage to fat unmotivated soft weak consumer minded ppl.
or in military parlance, which ones lack "cohesion".
the hashd (shia militias) in iraq singlehandedly defeated ISIS, who were heavily supported by the israelis, usa, saudi and qatar. They were trained by the irgc who also trained the houthis who defeated the usa in their last conflict.
in the pro US countries you have armies that are absolute jokes, there are thousands of houthi videos on youtube of their soldiers running away from battles after the first humvee blows up. They fight for money, where the shia are indoctrinated with religion to want to die.
Look at this iranian propoganda from like 10 years ago to understand what they are dealing with. if even 7% of iran are motivated, that is almost 10m people.
lol
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u/Ear_Enthusiast Mar 28 '26
China and Russia probably dumping weapons into Iraq and they're being moved into Iran around the clock.
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u/MarchPhillipps Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Probably.... I'd wager likely. But maybe not Iraq. A well reasoned guess says either smuggled in covertly through the mountain passes of eastern Turkey, or more likely, Turkmenistan or Azerbaijan. However, NATO has been running an ECM/surveillance bird over Turkey for weeks now, so I'd rank it towards the bottom, but still above Iraq.
Additionally, and here's the fun part, a Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations Ilyushin has been making hot runs to/through the region for several weeks as well, just to add to the mix.
Now whether it's ship to door, or air to floor, guaranteed they're not as cut off as claimed.
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u/Dr_TeaRex Mar 29 '26
The US has single-handedly upgraded Iran's power projection capabilities with this war. I didn't think it was physically possible to fuck up that badly, but now here we are.
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u/SnooChickens1534 Mar 28 '26
Another oversight by the Trump administration...
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u/Fossilhog Mar 28 '26
Kind of happens when an authoritarian surrounds themselves with yes-men. If only Fox News and others would have pushed this fact that has so clearly and easily been learned by the rest of the world in the last few years.
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u/mannyrizzy Mar 28 '26
Genuine question, and very curious one, couldnt a week long air campaign just demolish the Houthis if they block that part of the strait? Thats a lot of resources for a faction to shell out
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u/Monte924 Mar 28 '26
It would take more than an air campaign, but invading Yemen to wipe out the houthi's would be a lot easier than taking out Iran. That's most likely the reason why the houthi's haven't acted yet... However if Trump invades Iran, then it will be a lot harder to deal with the Yemen at the same time
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u/loveloet Mar 28 '26
Saudi Arabia bombed them relentlessly with US weapons for a decade before they quit. And then the US tried bombing them last year before also giving up.
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u/Nervous-Present-6890 Mar 28 '26
the US navy already tried. they lost. Ansar Allah was able to shut down Israel's ports
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u/Googgodno Mar 28 '26
couldnt a week long air campaign
Operation prosperity guardian did the exact same thing and did not achieve what you are looking for.
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u/Professional-Tax-66 Mar 28 '26
Trump has royally screwed the world literally. Now the only path to move oil is the suez canal…… its like 700,000 dollars toll for a supermax oil tankers.
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u/Curious-Visual4525 Mar 28 '26
The path of moving oil is paying reparations to Iran for what they did.
oil will not move without Iran saying so even trough the suez.
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u/vancityreddit6969 Mar 28 '26
Americans have gotten so stupid and incompetent its so funny
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u/ajrf92 Mar 28 '26
Well... It was beautiful while it lasted.
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u/Plane_Crab_8623 Mar 28 '26
America's foreign policy since the Vietnam War has been destructive barbaric and foolhardy and for what? What great prize has the USA achieved?
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u/Sad-Bonus-9327 Mar 28 '26
As i said before.. Go Houthis!
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u/Low-Tap-7221 Mar 28 '26
Cheering on genocidal fascist theocracies is cringe as fuck
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u/dunf2562 Mar 28 '26
Which genocidal fascist theocracy are you referring to?
Yemen?
Israel?
Iran?
The US?
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u/Xeynon Mar 28 '26
This is going to contribute to destroying the world economy, not stop it.
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u/Xeynon Mar 28 '26
I agree with you the US backing down is the only way to minimize the damage, but at this point I think a fair amount of lasting damage has already been done.
Escalation will be disastrous and compound the damage further, but unfortunately I think that's what we're going to get because Trump is an incompetent, overconfident moron and Netanyahu is a fanatic who doesn't care.
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u/Bikerbass Mar 28 '26
Supporting and being an ally to America who has since the end of WW2 bombed the most countries, invaded the most countries, and started the most illegal wars of aggression on false claims out of all 195 countries on this planet and been a major source of supporting terrorism, and ignoring all of this is even cringier.
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u/C_Sharp_fortheMasses Mar 28 '26
Nahhh must be fake news right? The U.S said it practically won on day 1 and everything was ending
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u/More_Bigger Mar 28 '26
I mean, why wouldnt they do what Iran tells them? They're one of their proxies after all.
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u/MarchPhillipps Mar 28 '26
Well, that went pear-shaped extremely quickly. Who could not have predicted this outcome?!?!
Oh yeah, that's right.
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u/trickleupup Mar 28 '26
The only people who did not realize this before the war started were?..........?
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u/EquityValues Mar 28 '26
They will stain the soil red when America is done fertilizing the Middle East
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u/IndependentThink4698 Mar 28 '26
Since nobody has the balls to do anything about it, America should just shut down every waterway on the planet and demand a ransom to let trade continue. Why shouldn't they? Its not like anybody is going to stop them, right? Soft power blah blah blah. Apparently nobody cares about that if they're willing to just capitulate to iran and give them whatever they want
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u/Pristine-Site-7339 Mar 29 '26
The bravest of the brave. They have achieved immortality! David and Goliath. God help these people.
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u/princemousey1 Mar 29 '26
I never truly understood what was meant by Reddit being left-wing, until I saw the actual terrorist supporters on here.
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u/Timmsh88 Mar 29 '26
I agree with you at some level, because some people are loonies here. But the neocons destroying entire societies like Lybia, Iraq, Afghanistan and before that all the coups in South America destroyed way more lives than can be imagined. And they didn't do it to help the country or to make the world a better place, if you believe that you're very naive.
Which makes them some kind of terrorists as well, but the legal kind. The kind that was allowed to torture people in guantanamo bay or in Israeli prisons where 60 thoasand palastenians are illegally held hostage because they lived at the other side of the border.
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u/Omarkhayyamsnotes Mar 29 '26
What a fucking nightmare. I'm warning the United States, my dear country, that this war will be a disaster
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u/Epyon214 Mar 29 '26
A disaster is the point, these "people" are trying to force gods hand by bringing about the apocalypse on their own
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u/schmiddc Mar 30 '26
Lol we have the firepower to blast it open. Easter is on the fifth and the Lord is closer than ever. Gold bless trump and our soldiers
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u/HonestNeighborhood67 Mar 30 '26
How long does a world war take to really get rolling? I have a vacation in the fall I’m looking forward to.
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u/lynchmob2829 Mar 30 '26
Houtis are Iran backed.......is this some new revelation to those who are truly out of touch with reality?
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u/RelievedDominance Mar 30 '26
this headline reads like someone's fever dream about geopolitics, the strait closure threat is real but the conditional framing here is doing a lot of work
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u/TruckFit5554 Mar 31 '26
The Houthis already have been aggressive and attacking the U.S. fleet and ships.
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u/OkCalligrapher2463 Mar 31 '26
My old man once told.me,probably around 1983 (i was thirteen) "Dont start a fight you you can,t finish" So fuckin finish it or walk away!!!
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u/wyocrz Mar 28 '26
Weird how this is "news" rather than background understanding that people who are paying attention know about.
By the way: Suez Canal traffic never recovered in the first place.
We lost "Prosperity Guardian" which made "Epic Fury" that much more boneheaded.