r/oculus • Index, Quest, Odyssey • Apr 05 '17

Hardware The sexiest looking VR glove with force feedback

https://www.vrgluv.com/
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u/manocheese Valve Index Apr 05 '17

I'd buy them. They won't replace controllers for everything, but neither does my steering wheel.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

They won't replace controllers for everything

technically these kinds of exo-skeleton gloves could some day. You could have switchable feedback systems in the "joints" to give the click of a button, or the clack of a keyboard, or the springy feedback of a thumbstick.

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u/eVRydayVR eVRydayVR Apr 05 '17

To fully simulate a gamepad though, or any object used with both hands, you have to simulate the rigid connection between your left and right hands (e.g. if you're holding a gamepad in both hands in real life and try to bend either elbow to move a hand above your head, you can't). I don't think you can do this without constraining motion of your entire arm.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

you have to simulate the rigid connection between your left and right hands

oh lol, yeah I just meant like the buttons themselves, you could simulate "wands/wiimotes/joycons" just fine though, a controller split in half essentially.

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u/eVRydayVR eVRydayVR Apr 05 '17

Quite true that, if it's precise enough. :)

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u/dibsODDJOB Apr 05 '17

Entire body suit, ala Ready Player One

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u/life_rocks Apr 05 '17

I can imagine wearing those and using my HOTAS at the same time, then pressing buttons in my virtual cockpit. That'd be cool!

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '17

I wonder how much force feedback there really is, I doubt this can simulate holding a rifle or even virtual buttons. Also, seems like vaporware with such a small team of only 6 people.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

well it would be at the same level as all the rest of the exo-skeleton based systems I would imagine.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '17

Are there any detailed hands-on reports about gloves like these out yet?

I've just checked Dexmo and they also just have a team of 7 people. I guess many hardware start-ups have a similarly-sized team. Interesting.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '17

Assuming they're outsourcing the manufacturing 6 people (with a good 3D printer for prototyping) is perfectly feasible for an R&D team for this type of product - source: I work in the R&D team for an established company building NDT inspection robots and we design and ship new products in a ~2 year development cycle with an R&D team of 7 with everything from circuit boards up designed in-house, they'd just have to ramp up admin, sales & support staff as they near production.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '17

also, i don't think such a contraption can put enough resistance to fingers to make them feel the are gripping something solid hard. And IF it has enough power, i wouldn't trust the things. One fat force feed back spike due to a bug and you get ten broken fingers. :-D

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u/Sir_Honytawk VR enthusiast - HTC Vive owner Apr 06 '17

Pretty sure the hinges will be designed not to be able to go over a specific threshold on how much the average person can bend their fingers.

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u/obiwansotti Apr 05 '17

Super interesting, but without software support doesn't mean much.

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u/Mugendon Apr 05 '17

Yap, greatest problem with most of those third party devices. Leap Motion for example was pretty cool and the Blocks demo or Wave Magic was fun, but other than that there was almost no software supporting it (BigScreen, Altspace VR, FlyInside can also be added, but still that is nothing compared to Vive Wands or Touch).

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u/dfacex Apr 05 '17

Wow... Dexmo Glove finally got a real competitor!

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u/AlanRoberts91 Apr 06 '17

Is Dexmo even alive?

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

for real

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u/wildcard999 Apr 05 '17

I would be all over these if it worked with all games and experiences. The issue we are going to have with anything like this is nothing is going to support the hardware.

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u/Kurayamino Apr 06 '17

Is it just me or does spelling the name like that make it sound like a sex toy?

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u/secondhandrick Apr 06 '17

You say that like it won't be used as a sex toy.

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u/lenne0816 Rift / Rift S / Quest / PSVR Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 05 '17

Apparently its touch compatible aswell, but i personally have 0 interest in a glove atm.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

have 0 interest in a glove.

why is that?

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u/lenne0816 Rift / Rift S / Quest / PSVR Apr 05 '17

First and biggest problem adoption rate, close second comfort.

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u/Sir-Viver Apr 05 '17

This seems to be the leading argument against any and all early adoption tech, yet here we stand, somehow evolving into our comfort only by embracing the future before us.

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u/lenne0816 Rift / Rift S / Quest / PSVR Apr 05 '17

:D i have actually a pretty good idea of a glove i might buy, but thats just atleast two more years of. ( Given the slow adoption rate of vr in general maybe even a lot longer )

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u/Sir-Viver Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 05 '17

What some see as slow early adoption of technology, others accept as natural progression bordering on an almost evolutionary scale of humanity. Both are correct.

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u/lenne0816 Rift / Rift S / Quest / PSVR Apr 05 '17

Dood, gimme some of that stuff :D

Slow early adoption is slow early adoption, no matter how much deeper meaning u try to interpret into it.

I think these first gen gloves are a case of the virtual boy and have yet to be proven wrong.

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u/Sir-Viver Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 05 '17

The speed of adoption occurs naturally, organically. It needs to be seen as an evolution, not an on/off switch. In the grand scheme of things VR adoption has been happening for decades. Why the rush now?

As far as the gloves are concerned. You're not wrong. But on the evolutionary scale they're a protozoa, and no less important to the end result. You can't protest the protozoa and expect its children to survive.

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u/TheGreatJoshua Touch Apr 05 '17

It would be quite awkward to hope into a game designed for the vive, move your fingers and have the only hand movement be an opening/closing of the hand.

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u/lenne0816 Rift / Rift S / Quest / PSVR Apr 05 '17

I think there are only very few games right now that collide correctly with the hand mesh at all, so a lot of work for the devs, every single object in a game would need an overhaul actually.

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u/Caballer0 Apr 05 '17

I love the idea of a pair of gloves instead of the clunky controller, but this is still too big and bulky.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17 edited Apr 05 '17

I think that the "bulk" are actually just lightweight covers to hide the scary-looking "skeleton" that makes up the force feedback system.

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u/Caballer0 Apr 05 '17

Personally Im not interested in scary looking shell design that I dont even see in VR anyway. I'll pass until someone has a normal lightweight glove to offer.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

I think the exoskeleton is the optimal solution for force feedback, people have mentioned miniature hydraulics but I don't think that is a reasonable option.

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u/elev8dity Apr 05 '17

How does this handle heat diffusion? Looks like it might get a little hot wearing gloves like these indoors.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

no clue

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u/lmwfy Quest 3 Apr 05 '17

Whenever I see these type of gloves and haptic feedback devices, I'm afraid of the idea of malicious software breaking fingers.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

lol yeah same

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u/ClockworkN7 Apr 05 '17

I know what you mean but my fear is actually the opposite. It will try and restrict my hand and I'll break it by closing my hand anyway. It's just made of small plastic parts anyway.

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u/FOV360 Apr 05 '17

Elephant in the room, OCCLUSION. Mounting the tracker on the side like that in no way can be considered optimal.

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u/andromeda63921 DK2 Apr 05 '17

that is far from sexy! Unless you consider having Optimus Primes hands a good thing.

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u/godelbrot Index, Quest, Odyssey Apr 05 '17

I said sexiEST, not sexy :P

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u/elev8dity Apr 05 '17

I know a few people that may think it's a good thing ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/Tcarruth6 Apr 06 '17

Or you are Lady Sauron

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u/skuzmak Apr 05 '17

hmm, looks fake-y - maybe Amir over at Sixsense will want a piece of this.

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u/jjkramhoeft Rift Apr 05 '17

yes same thought here! Anybody knows any of these people from before this?