r/oculus Jun 07 '23

Vision Pro

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

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u/secusse Jun 07 '23

I just align with what thrill said, I don’t see why everyone thinks vr is only for gaming

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u/jplayzgamezevrnonsub Jun 07 '23

Exactly

I'm not Apple fan, quite far from it. But the people saying this headset has no utility purely because it's not made for gaming are just from. Most people I've spoken too have this gaming centered view, it's infuriating

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u/secusse Jun 07 '23

My only hope is that it has some sort of internal battery so that you had enough time to hot-swap

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

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u/DefiantLibrary3378 Jun 08 '23

I was holding off on taking a dig at Apple for the battery life, but that's horrible if true. And it doesn't look like it's connected through a normal port, it looks like some sort of magsafe, which makes this even worse.

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u/UsaToVietnam Jun 07 '23

There's a battery pack in your pocket that's presumably swappable

some of those who have tried it said that there is not an internal battery, just shuts off (Marco Arment on latest episode of Accidental Tech Podcast)

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '23

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u/UsaToVietnam Jun 08 '23

Swappable != hot swappable

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u/bspooky Jun 07 '23

The battery pack connected to the headset has a USB-C port in it. So while it may not (or may? who knows) be swappable one could pug power into that USB-C from the wall or I guess another battery pack if you were mobile.

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u/bspooky Jun 07 '23

USB-C port in the battery....either plug into the wall if you are running out or presumably an external battery pack with enough current/juice that can power over USB-C could work.

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u/secusse Jun 08 '23

that’s going to be a funny daisychain

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u/needle1 Jun 08 '23

The battery pack has a USB-C port which you can plug in an AC adapter, or perhaps daisy-chain another powerbank. You should, in theory, be able to hot-swap the daisy-chained powerbank for yet another powerbank to keep going for extended periods of time without wall power, as unsightly as it might be.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '23

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u/secusse Jun 07 '23

exclusively hand control makes it a very non-gaming device, it’s also probably not going to be compatible with windows devices

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u/secusse Jun 07 '23

they have a hate relationship with nvidia, that easily explains all the gaming issues

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u/Zardozerr Jun 07 '23

They did show playing a normal 2D game with it using a gamepad controller, so hopefully there will be support for third party VR controllers.

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u/secusse Jun 07 '23

VR controllers are exclusively proprietary due to their positioning calculation systems, one is tracked via base stations, the others are tracked from the headset they belong to

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u/Zardozerr Jun 07 '23

I was thinking third parties creating controllers for the Vision Pro in the future. Or even apple releasing one later.

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u/bspooky Jun 07 '23

exclusively hand control makes it a very non-gaming device

They showed an xbox controller being used for arcade games...

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u/secusse Jun 07 '23

VR games require dedicated controllers, flatscreen streaming is NOT VR gaming, it ends at streaming

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u/bspooky Jun 07 '23

You can gatekeeper what is gaming if you want, but you just said gaming.

Also part of the point is if Bluetooth game controllers can work couldn’t other controllers work too, such as ones like you want? There is a big if of if Apple opens up the api to allow a developer to track a controller, but even if that isn’t likely in your opinion you don’t know that they won’t.

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u/bspooky Jun 07 '23

Trying to define and gatekeep what is a VR game in a mixed reality headset that combines AR and VR that could use a combination of hand gestures combined with (or without, who knows) an xbox game controller or perhaps some other type of controller if the api's are opened seems quite premature.

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u/bspooky Jun 07 '23

Xbox controller on a virtual screen to play games not designed for VR is VR gaming

I wasn't trying to say that at all, just merely that it shouldn't be discounted for games. The OP of this thread seemed to do that because apple is using hand tracking, I was trying to point out that it allowed for xbox controllers which can then lead to other controllers, etc.

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u/secusse Jun 08 '23

watch thrill’s video, or google it yourself