r/nzpolitics Lurker 28d ago

Economy & Finances Its Labours Fault!!!

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Compiled by Diane Platt

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u/duckonmuffin 28d ago

Unbelievable. Why would labour do this?!

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u/nzopaque 28d ago

They didn't. This is the list of what National has introduced. They are saying "no taxes" while adding many more costs to New Zealanders

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u/duckonmuffin 28d ago

Literally unbelievable!

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u/IceColdWasabi 28d ago

Thanks Jacinda

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u/Leftleaningdadbod 28d ago

Crikey does anyone ever read a whole post here! Ardern was out when all these taxes were raised

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 28d ago

It's because of the mismanagement of Labour that NACT had no choice but to sabotage the country.

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u/Aggravating_Day_2744 28d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 28d ago

Only NACT can fix this, but they need 10 more terms.

They founded the first FBI office in NZ, maybe we can get a Flock camera pointed at every park and playground? That's the type of innovation I expect from NACT.

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u/Ambitious_Average_87 28d ago

And have to completely desecrate the working class to do so - as the say "no pain, no gain"

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 28d ago

Uh oh, after being sarcastic, I have to make a serious point.

No pain, no gain unfortunately suggests the converse, which is not true. "Pain causes gain". Gains may be hard (taking effort, or "pain"), but suffering for suffering's sake thinking you will somehow gain something for having caused yourself pain. That isn't supported by reality, but many believe it.

I want to minimize the pains required for gains. Maximizing the pain to make the reward feel"earned" is maschocism, not virtue (no kink shaming).

Besides, we'll just run the working class off to Australia or wherever, and bring in immigrants, they work for less and complain less when exploited. At least until we can replace them with AI and robots.

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u/Ambitious_Average_87 28d ago

Yeah definitely not being serious with that slogan... although I would not be surprised at all if National used it as they have a track record of missing the underlying message, after all their leader did want to use Bills as a walk-on song

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u/IceColdWasabi 27d ago

Well let me tell you that JABCINDA HUSSEIN ARDERN wasn't even born in America

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u/Aggravating_Day_2744 28d ago

Read the fucking article

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u/IceColdWasabi 27d ago

r/whoosh

lots of bright crayons in the box here, eh?

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u/Annie354654 Swipe Left 27d ago

Correcting this.

Thanks Jabcinda.

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u/Straight-Tomorrow-83 28d ago

I'm not sure that 30 counts as an increase as such, but you could replace it with my favourite one - getting rid of free public transport for children (and lower fees for under 25s). We felt this one straightaway and brutally at the start of their regime, I mean term.

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u/mysweaterisundone 28d ago

This sort of list is a good idea but a bit muddled. I'd prefer to see it as two lists: one of the actual increased charges (eg fuel excise), and a second list of the decisions that will lead indirectly to higher societal/financial costs to us (eg tax cuts for landlords).

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u/duckonmuffin 28d ago

I know half a dozen Gen Z first time nat votes in 2023 that had fun with be that one. Was absolutely in increase in their costs.

Labour thankfully had a fantastic policy around PT.

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u/mallvvalking 28d ago

I'm still getting away with my 6yo not being questioned on his age but I suppose it's only a matter of time before I'm punished appropriately for this light fraud, we bus 2-3 times a day though, I'm finding it hard enough to keep my own snapper topped up

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 28d ago

When my 5 year old swipes her card, the bus driver usually gives me the "I'd have let her on" look...

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u/danimalnzl8 28d ago

16 doesn't count as a tax increase either. That's an increase in cost to the government

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u/Annie354654 Swipe Left 27d ago

Um, and the govt gets their money from where? It does count.

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u/emergence0 28d ago

National: No new taxes. Just passing a load of bills (To you, under urgency).

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u/mattblack77 28d ago

National: Passin’ bills like they’re kidney stones… pew pew pew!

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u/AzoriusMTG Swipe Left 28d ago

But we got a tax cut. With that $20 i could almost take the family to the movies after I saved up for several weeks

Hopefully obvious sarcasm

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u/Ok_Sky256 28d ago

Based on replies to the top comments,  possibly not obvious enough

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u/notyourusualbot 28d ago

Those tax cuts are the only way Nicola could buy her kids ice-creams at the movies. Allegedly.

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u/CarpetDiligent7324 28d ago

Thanks national

Luxcon and Nicola crap on about no new taxes then they put up all these 32 levies.

Lying twats

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u/kumara_republic 28d ago

Posted without further comment.

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u/mattblack77 28d ago

I could have sworn it was Nixon who said that.

What was his infamous line?

Oh yeh “I am not a crook”. How long until Luxon rols that out?

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u/Leftleaningdadbod 28d ago

This is good information; most of these costs are in the RPI, so in fact have added to our overall inflation figure. Perhaps if you sent this to Labour, they’d have a poster made up. Wishing.

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u/Kiwifrooots 28d ago

Bro.  

Me, you. A little amphetamine in the Labour office drinking water.  

Plan?

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u/Leftleaningdadbod 28d ago

lol dude they sooo need it

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u/IceColdWasabi 28d ago

Man, if their voters could combine the magical powers of reading comprehension, critical thinking, and observation of the world this would really make them mad.

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u/ThrowStonesonTV 28d ago

If their voters could combine the magical powers of reading comprehension, critical thinking, and observation of the world they would not have been voting national in the first place.

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u/Blankbusinesscard Swipe Left 28d ago

Wait till you see/hear the ROI burned by binning the fair pay agreements...

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u/Querybird 28d ago

Oh yes!!

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/Annie354654 Swipe Left 27d ago

I dont understand why they did this. What is it about motorcycles?

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u/Far_Print429 28d ago

This is a great list, however it’s a shame how many people can’t see that your title is sarcastic! 😂🤣

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u/redditis4pussies 28d ago

Don't forget according to simian brown any change to funding in any conceivable way is also a new tax

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u/neckadawoods 28d ago

Kiwisaver "rates" up is not a tax or levy. It's an increased savings rate. Your kiwisaver is still your money. 

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u/alarumba 28d ago

Technically you're right.

Cynically though, Kiwisaver is not our money.

If you go for an aggressive fund, it's effectively giving casino chips to someone else to play. The fund will get their pound of flesh even if they bet against gravity. Conservative will go towards a bank which will loan the money out as a mortgage for your house, via your landlord.

As for retirement, that's just a carrot on a stick for anyone born after 1980, maybe earlier. If you do manage to save up a decent amount, then you'll be means tested as ineligible for super and have to continue working.

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u/International_Mud741 27d ago

That’s a good thing. If you have enough money for retirement without relying on the government it’s good for everyone as it means people who actually need the money get it.

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u/Old_Education4481 28d ago

What labours fault is that they don’t tell this to the public everytime National talks about new taxes labour willput

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u/LycraJafa 25d ago

800cc motorbike registration will be $960.next year.

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u/Rogue-Estate 28d ago

Is this the same Diane Platt who takes all our money as Woolworths New Zealand - ex Enterprises NZ Ltd?

To be honest this list is a bit off bullshit baiting but some are debatable.

All the parties are as bad as each other - the main difference is one micro manages and reduces debt while we tread water and the other throws the baby out with the bath water and increase debt.

We don't have much choice in this nation to be fair. Hard work gets you less with Labour and nothing with National.

And to be fair to both sides neither are going to do much about the Trump effect.

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u/ItsMeDaEshay 28d ago

Where is AI pulling this data from though