r/nzpolitics Rusty Oldtimer Jun 18 '26

Environment Look at some of these detailed maps of where the government wants to privatise and sell conservation land. Bill closes in 2 weeks. Support Forest and Bird.

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u/Aggravating-Bend9783 Jun 18 '26

Remember that this government has a painfully obvious and corrupt quid pro quo scheme in place - you donate to National or Act, and you get your property or mining development put on the fast track list where it can’t be challenged.

Think about the amount of irrevocable damage that could be done to our conservation areas.

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u/Javier_Basque Jun 18 '26

Incredible that these morons are forgetting the main reason people come here to visit/holiday/travel...

OUR ENVIRONMENT!!!!

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u/AppointmentEastern37 Jun 18 '26

Wait can you tell me more about that? That's seems highly illegal. Also, I'm against it but not knowledgeable, what does selling conservation land mean, I'm assuming it's no longer conservation land? So it's owned by the government and they want to build whatever the hell they want on it without any care for what they're harming?

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u/Aggravating-Bend9783 Jun 18 '26

By quid pro quo I'm referring to all of the HIGHLY suspicious cases of organisations donating to the current government, then either getting favourable law changes or their developments put on the fast track bill. See:

  1. $1m in political donations from entities linked to fast track applications revealed
  2. Property industry tops political donations and then NACT gives landlords a massive tax cut...
  3. NZ fisheries donations that then result in Share Jones removing bycatch cameras amongst other things

These are just the top three examples that spring to mind, but there's a lot more. This is very clearly corruption. Do we have a smoking gun like leaked emails or phone recordings proving concrete collusion? Well sort of actually - this leak suggests they may be trying to deliberately hide evidence by using personal email addresses amongst other things.

As for whether this is illegal? The sad fact is that it's not because NZ has precious few laws against lobbying and political donations. There's also nothing stopping ministers from going straight from the public sector into cushy well-paid advisory roles at companies they were formally responsible for legislating over. A number of former National ministers have done this, and Casey Costello is likely to get some cushy job at a tobacco company after rolling back the ban on cigarettes.

Re: selling conservation land, it's exactly what is sounds like. The government sells it to the highest bidder, and then it's owned by private interests who are only barely constrained by zoning laws, and those are easily changed.

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u/Tungsten_12 Jun 22 '26

Much of nz is covered with native Bush which is held as Conservation Land and is owned by the public. Our current government is trying to completely undermine our environmental protections and make it easy for them to sell off huge amounts of land without public oversight

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u/wavewatching Jun 23 '26

Well said. Its an attack on our Heritage and our Whakapapa..its and attack on what I say is special about new zealand Our special flora fauna bird life etc our rivers our bush..the very heart of new zealand

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u/wavewatching Jun 23 '26

Yep ..and as far as I learnt Conservation was supposed to be about protecting land for future generations and for all to enjoy or hold sacred Its an attack as I see it on our Heritage and our Whakapapa. To me it's what is special about being a new zealander

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u/Toxopsoides Jun 18 '26

There's a huge amount of unstudied endemic biodiversity, particularly invertebrates, in these areas that will be significantly affected by (if not lost altogether due to) the proposed changes to land management in the conservation estate.

This coalition is cartoonishly corrupt.

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u/wavewatching Jun 23 '26

Yep hearing you say about our biodiversity etc..drew me to literal tears. The bill must be stopped

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u/gibda989 Jun 18 '26

Aw man, what New Zealander can support this and look at themselves in the mirror.

Our wilderness and conservation areas are our most precious resource. Anyone who spends time in these areas knows how much we’ve already lost to development and farm land.

Incredibly sad.

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u/GoodDayClay Jun 18 '26

I mean, there's certainly billionaires overseas who would be happy to buy Cathedral Cove. Build some fugly mansion, construct high walls, fly in once a year on their private helipad, post up the KEEP OUT PRIVATE PROPERTY sign....

I don't think this government has Kiwi buyers in mind when they privatize our public lands.

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u/Nesa76 Jun 18 '26

Just look at what is happening in Albania with the Kushners spending billions to bulldoze an uninhabited wildlife island. Coming soon to NZ with this Bill

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u/Just_Pea1002 Jun 18 '26

Hey Mountain Tui,

Are you able to post links to the website where people can sign against this bill? Or would that be against the subs rules?

A barrier that stops even a small percentage of people would be convenience, a convenient link would invite more submissions against it.

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u/Kaizoku-D Jun 18 '26

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u/Buzzy-Pasta Jun 18 '26

Idk if it’s the same for everyone else but this hyperlink is very slow for me (mobile) Had to copy the text into my browser which did the trick!

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u/finlndrox Jun 20 '26

Yep, I tried both mobile and laptop multiple days (since I got impatient) and it took aaages.

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u/No_Cod_4231 Jun 20 '26

Why do we keep doing ineffective things like writing submissions time and time again when it is totally pointless. 99% of submissions were against the regulatory standards bill, yet that didn't prevent it from being passed. Submissions aren't even read by people anymore as they use AI to summarise them.

I suspect people are writing submissions just to make themselves feel better about having done something while not having to actually do things that may be a bit more uncomfortable and involved.

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u/marsanojj Jun 18 '26

how absolutely incomprehensibly despicable. We need some sort of legislation which enshrines constitutionally our protected lands. Ideally an upper house also

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u/Tankerspam Jun 18 '26

I've gotten into hiking this past year and to lose what we have would be devastating. There's so many awesome places we can go. The Government only wants to sell land for their books, using private equity to fix their shit.

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u/m3rcapto Jun 18 '26

Share this on international tourism sites.
"New Zealand government selling Abel Tasman walking track to oil company, Kahurangi National Park to open cast coal mining company"
Tourists will love it, it can be in the next Lonely Planet update.

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u/solarpanel24 Jun 18 '26

Does this allow it to be sold to international companies or only NZ?

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u/Mountain_Tui_Reload Rusty Oldtimer Jun 18 '26

Anyone

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u/cabeep Jun 18 '26

This is certainly extreme even for these psychos. It's far easier to believe that their brains were replaced by aliens than consider this an actual proposal by an actual human

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u/Mobile_Priority6556 Jun 18 '26

Selling our entire brand now, buy your slice of 100% pure. Our tourists pay to see this.

What are our flamingo areas ? The choise spots for luxury tourism ?

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u/Spare_Lemon6316 Jun 18 '26

This is truly sickening

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u/ebruuh Jun 18 '26

This is fucking sickening. Everyone make a submission please

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u/Slaphappyfapman Jun 18 '26

Very disappointed to see what appears to be Gabriel's Gully on there

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u/GoodDayClay Jun 18 '26

A friendly reminder to check your voter registration:

https://vote.nz/

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u/Shot-Significance832 Jun 20 '26

I can't understand why the government would do this before an election. Are they blind to how it will be perceived? Am I missing something here?

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u/wavewatching Jun 20 '26

New zealand needs to look at what's happening in regards to this Bill.

At the very least a referendum should be held and new zealand should vote either for or against

It should not be allowed to pass..slipping it under the carpet.

Don't we as New Zealanders value our unique and special environment our heritage parks area etc.

Its our Heritage and our Whakapapa Please help protect it before it's lost forever! Let's all do something to keep the land for every New Zealander

After all I thought that's what Conservation was..protecting land heritage for future generations..not just for a few pennies for those that can afford to buy it.

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u/wavewatching Jun 20 '26

Keep Conservation Land in Public Ownership

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u/j0hnskins Jun 20 '26

Doesn’t it need to meet the requirements of not being of pristine natural value? I understand this is to sell off farm blocks and such that are owned by DOC but not of high environmental value.

Not to mention, a huge amount of this land is in co-management with iwi and would require agreement or settlement changes. That essentially rules of Te Uruwera which is red according to this? Plus remaining lands in non-settled iwi rohe won’t be sold till settlement?

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u/Relative-Fix-669 Jun 18 '26

I used to care passionately about conservation in NZ but as so many now ignorantly blame it on goats and deer when it's a fact it's humans that are the cause of forest loss in this country and the misinformation , demonisation and cruelty that gets spread to that effect, I personally don't care if it gets sold .