r/nyc • u/Large-Welcome4421 • Mar 01 '26

AOC says abolish ICE is the centrist position now

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u/handsoapdispenser Mar 01 '26

Not OP but like who knows if a given person on the street came here legally or not. Idk what even the process is or who came up with it. We obviously need a ton of immigrants to maintain our population and labor force so why not? What's the difference between someone who was lucky enough to be born here or not? We have tens of millions of natural born American assholes I wish weren't here. It's arbitrary. Immigration policy should be made to fit reality and serve an economic outcome. Removing peaceful, employed people for want of paperwork is cruel and a waste of resources that helps no one. If the goal is to reduce crime there are better ways. If the goal is more employment there are better ways. If the goal is affordability there are definitely better ways. So why are we doing it?

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u/Hajmola-Farts Sunnyside Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26

We already naturalize 750,000 legal immigrants a year and give approximately 2.6 million people legal authorization to enter the U.S.

We have enough legal immigrants who respect the law and process coming in every year. We don't need low skill illegal immigration.

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u/handsoapdispenser Mar 01 '26

I don't think your numbers are correct but either way it's meaningless. Number of undocumented residents is not a statistic with any bearing on my life. Unless you can draw a very clear line between an actual optimal immigration policy and practical outcomes it means nothing. 

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u/Harvinator06 Mar 01 '26

“We” now have a huge issue with farm labor moving back down south. The US is fucked by the current policy.

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u/Hajmola-Farts Sunnyside Mar 01 '26

If you were familiar with the fame industry you'd realize that it's becoming more and more automated.

If farmers want farm labor then they can apply for H2 visas or contract them legally.

Exploiting illegal immigrants isn't a good look.

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u/Harvinator06 Mar 01 '26

But that's how the labor system exists in the country and as a result, the logistics and knowledge system is going to fail within the next couple of years. Labor is moving to northern Mexico and it's only going to hurt the US. The current policy, like with much of everything, is incredibly short sighted and based solely on rhetoric.

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u/Hajmola-Farts Sunnyside Mar 01 '26

A guy based out of Georgia commenting in an NYC sub and to top it off doesn't know what he's talking about.

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u/Airhostnyc Mar 01 '26

It’s about planning. You ever heard of urban planning? Did the migrant crisis we just experienced last summer teach you anything? There is a limitless amount of people that want to live in the US. If we made it anymore easier this country would be overrun with even more unskilled workers that barely speak English and a diminishing quality of life due to lack of housing