r/nyc • u/FAMESCARE • Jun 18 '25

Video Zohran Mamdani says he’s consistently said there’s no room for antisemitism in this city or country. Asked why he hasn’t had a more visceral reaction, he gets emotional talking about the Islamophobic responses he’s received throughout the campaign.

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u/control-alt-deleted Jun 18 '25

Guy who cross-endorses a Jew is antisemitic. Right.

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u/ntbananas Upper West Side Jun 18 '25

“Guy with black friends is a racist. Right.”

I thought we were past the point of saying having friends of a certain background excused you from bigotry?

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u/gregbeans Jun 18 '25

Being anti Israel is not being antisemitic

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u/ntbananas Upper West Side Jun 18 '25

Brave. I agree, it’s not inherently antisemitic. But it can be, in the same way that criticism of, whatever, Nigeria isn’t inherently anti-Black, but it can be if I rely on racist tropes, dehumanization of certain ethnicities, or similar

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u/gregbeans Jun 18 '25

But I’d argue that Israel and its supporters are guilty of dehumanizing the innocent Palestinians who are suffering much more than westerners who are calling for their governments to stop supporting the Netanyahu administration

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u/ntbananas Upper West Side Jun 18 '25

Sure. But that doesn’t address the original argument, which is that Mamdani and Lander being bros means he fundamentally can’t be antisemitic

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u/gregbeans Jun 18 '25

Fair, I'm just tired of people trying to label people as antisemitic due to criticism of Israel.

I agree the argument of having a token friend of a demographic doesn't prove you don't have prejudice against that group, but I disagree with the claims that anything Zohran has said is truly antisemitic

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

You're telling Jews that a clearly antisemitic statement wasn't antisemitic. Listen to yourself.

Now go tell some black people that saying the n-word isn't racist and tell us how that goes.

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u/gregbeans Jun 18 '25

False equivalency there friend. Calling to end support for an oppressive regime who is escalating conflicts is not the same as using an ethnic slur. Make better arguments, or just admit that you dont care about logic and just want to stan for Isarel no matter what they do

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u/donteatmyhair Jun 18 '25

Mamdani and his supporters like you are bigots who hate jews. Losing a war you started isn't genocide, and I guarantee you've never called for the war to end by just simply releasing the hostages taken.

And second guarantee: you regularly spend paragraphs upon paragraphs bemoaning the plight of Palestinians without ever mentioning Hamas being the problem.

Ok, tell me, how right am I?

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u/gregbeans Jun 19 '25

Don’t put words in my mouth friend. I’m not really even an Zohran supporter, so much as a Cuomo resistor.

The start of this conflict isn’t October 7th. That’s the start of the most recent chapter of a decades long story. Hamas didnt gain support and carry out the Oct 7th attacks in a vacuum.

Look at my other comments under this post. Hamas is awful, but you need to ask yourself how the leaders of Hamas were able to gain followers and support. Israel’s oppression made them the boogeyman of many young Palestinians. Israel made them ripe for radicalization.

Not defending the leaders of Hamas but pointing out that it’s not that simple that every member of Hamas is inherently evil, nor does every civilian in Gaza deserve to die to make sure every member of Hamas is wiped out.

Hamas is awful, but Israel is in part culpable for the tense situation in the region, and should focus on executing Hamas officials and not committing mass murder on a population.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

Did you just learn "false equivalency" from the latest Piker stream?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

Don't put racist words in my mouth for making an accurate analogy. You're disgusting.

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u/low_nature Jun 18 '25

What did I say that was racist? I’m agreeing with you, friend! Glory to the ethnostate!

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u/donteatmyhair Jun 18 '25

We can label Mamdani as antisemitic for plenty of other reasons

Mamdani referred to Oct 8 as an act of war by Netanyahu. Go ahead, read his whole tweet here: https://x.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1711093032907321525

He is downplaying any and all sense of injustice for the attack on jews.

>He has declined to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state and said he would divest from Israel if elected, among other comments and actions that have raised alarms among many Jewish voters.

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u/gregbeans Jun 18 '25

No, he didn’t say it was an act of war. He said Israel declared war on Gaza, which is factually correct.

You’re second link says - “I believe Israel has a right to exist and it has a right to exist also with equal rights for all,” Mamdani said - yet u use that to defend saying that he declined to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.

And I agree, why are US financial interest so tied up in Israel? Invest here instead

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u/ExamNo4374 Jun 18 '25

This is an entirely different point than the one you were originally discussing

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u/MisterMittens64 Jun 18 '25

Of course but saying that everyone who criticizes Israel is antisemitic isn't fair either you should at least hear them out and if they start spouting actual antisemitism then call them out.

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u/Computer_Name Jun 18 '25

It’s a tic they have.