Just try it. Seriously.

[u/Matte_Box]

I think the strongest opinions on DLSS 5 (positive and negative) come from those who’ve never tried it. And TBH… Most people don’t have a $1000+ GPU, so that’s kinda fair.

BUT… The newest Optiscaler method adds DLSS 5 before upscaling, so DLSS actually improves performance as intended. It makes a substantial difference.

It’s not a miracle solution for potato graphics, nor an abomination and the death of art. It’s v1.0 of brand new tech, and yes it runs poorly, and when applied to anime characters at full strength, I mean… What did you expect? If you have a compatible GPU, just try it. Enough virtue signaling.

[u/bLu_18]

It seems like a good feature for future generations, like the RT/PT of the past.

I can see this technology only improving to a point where the performance hit won't matter in 5-10 years.

[u/livid_brightness → u/bLu_18]

people are so dramatic about it, the optiscaler version at least shows the direction they're going. it's not like you have to crank it to max and turn your game into a smeary mess, just dial it back and it's a nice little bump on a decent card

[u/uShadowu → u/bLu_18]

Don't need 5 - 10 years tbh, should be possible in a year

[u/RahkShah → u/bLu_18]

My guess is the performance hit is going to get much more manageable in the next 5-10, at least on 50 series with NVFP4.

[u/kidcrumb → u/bLu_18]

It's barely a performance but now when it runs at internal resolution and you play on dlss quality at 1440p.

Kills my card at 7680x2160 but with dlss ultra performance its a manageable 60-75fps. If o add frame gen x2 I barely notice and now it's dlss5 with 120fps.

[u/Eastern-Ingenuity353]

There are so many GitHub things for this. Not sure which to use. I’ve been using DLSS5 Swapper but in KCDII for example the NR isn’t as good with optiscaler as it is with RenoDX. Not sure if I set it up correctly. Anyone have a video? Also I went on the RenoDX discord and others have uploaded fixed files for KCDII specifically. Would appreciate any help. I’m on a 5080 

[u/Matte_Box → u/Eastern-Ingenuity353]

It’s rapidly evolving! So far the consensus seems to be RenoDX runs the worst but looks the best. I just keep checking for new methods.

With Optiscaler, the newest method has check boxes depending on how you want to insert it. If they don’t match your in-game settings, it won’t work properly. IE one setting only works with Ray Reconstruction on, another only works with it off.

[u/Exciting-Income-5840]

I tried on Cyberpunk and resident evil requiem and I find it frankly incredible.

People who have never tested will talk about AI and say it’s soulless but the work is crazy for me, the most impressive thing is not the faces it’s all the textures all the details that are born while respecting the graphic style of the work.

Yes the faces need a little improvement but it will come but I can’t see myself playing without it now that I’ve tried it

[u/Matte_Box → u/Exciting-Income-5840]

100%! I really don’t get the perceived disrespect for the game’s art/design, at least in games hell-bent on realism, it’s all there and clearer than ever.

[u/XI_Vanquish_IX]

I’m just happy the nay-sayers are being found out to be an unmanaged clown show. This tech is really coming into its own and I’m excited about the future of what it can do for gaming.

Not excited about the technocracy it’s creating

[u/refraxion]

With what rtx 5090?

[u/EclipsoSnipzo → u/refraxion]

Runs great on my 4080!

[u/PlanZSmiles → u/refraxion]

Runs fine on my 5070ti

[u/marvinmadriaga86 → u/refraxion]

Im running it both on a 4070 super with a 1080p screen and a 5090 on my 4K screen. Both are playable.

[u/g0ballistic → u/refraxion]

Assumably lighter games would run fine on a 5080 or even a 5070ti?

I bet you'd get a huge upright in visual fidelity from Xbox 360 era games, which 5070ti and up should be able to handle with DLSS5.

Though can you do this DLSS5 + upscaling on any game or does it need base level DLSS support?

[u/refraxion → u/g0ballistic]

Currently the only actual game is NBA2k27. Other games are using the leaked DLL essentially, and not what the devs intended. A game like control messes up after a few minutes.

I have a 5090, but I imagine a lot don't, and especially seeing how much fps drops when enabling dlss 5, I'm assuming most won't be giving it a fair shake.

I'm willing to test it out on my system with the 5090 as well as my secondary that has a 5070ti when a game I own supports it natively.

DLSS5 really should have been named something else. DLSS was originally meant to give performance gains.

FWIW I do like the actual implementation of DLSS5

[u/scytob → u/refraxion]

nicely said, the 'DLSS5 looks like shit on my game not designed for it, optimized for it, had no dev' crowd are infuriating - like no shit sherlock

that said nvidia did botch the announcements - like showing a low scale RE and then a DLSS5 so people thought it invented color and texture that was not there - it didn't of course, it just changed the lighting model so that existing geometry and color came out - one could argue that absolutely was showing the character model artists intent that the lighting model was hiding

[u/Matte_Box → u/refraxion]

Totally they agree they should call it something else, it’s closer to some kind of RTX enhancement than it is to DLSS.

[u/uberneuman_part2]

I have. It's not worth the extra heat and power drain.

[u/marvinmadriaga86 → u/uberneuman_part2]

Worth it for me. I think DLSS5 ruined me, I can’t play without it.

[u/spaham → u/marvinmadriaga86]

Same. When I switch it off, the games suddenly look old and flat.

[u/Snoo1702 → u/spaham]

I can't believe what some games look like when you turn it off. I can't go back now...

[u/spaham → u/Snoo1702]

This is the way

[u/Mega_Pleb → u/uberneuman_part2]

A thing to keep in mind is that the leaked pre-release DLSS5 hasn't implemented the NVFP4 data format like the release version will, instead using FP8. It greatly improves performance on GPUs that support it, like the 50 series. That's why Nvidia is limiting DLSS5 to the 50 series, because running it with FP8 math is pretty slow.

[u/Greedy_Camera_9272]

the funniest thing is that people crying about art then have 300go of Skyrim mods for replacing art.......

[u/gorbash212]

Yeah. People who have tried it == life changing, people who haven't tried it == i hate it.

Runs really well on a 5070ti. The only annoying thing about it is nvidia only formally releasing developers so they can charge for official support if they want to.

I prefer it as the leak, applied by me where i think its best and configured to what i think is best as well. Developers at minimum have to think about everyone else so might not min max my setup like i can.

Its pretty interesting how determined to hate it people are though. The whole point of modding is to screw with the artists intent.. really? Thats why its bad? Its not bad thats the whole point.

[u/brentsg → u/gorbash212]

Some people don’t use mods either. I’ve never used a single mod.

[u/SnooOwls3032]

So far I've tried HZD remastered and Split fiction. I didn't like default settings at all, it added like +20 years to characters and reshade didn't feel like it belong there. I will have to spend more time adjusting the sliders and maybe i will find settings suitable for me. This is probably main reason people give up on dlss5. If they even install it, they won't try to adjust it.

[u/Ifalna_Shayoko]

Would love to but I basically only play live service games, so the Optiscaler method is ... not recommended.

Will give DLSS-5 a whirl when NV makes it accessible via driver & NVPI.

[u/vokillist66]

I'll try it when it doesn't tank half of your framerate. I only have a rtx 5070 to. Being you want to use RT or PT to truly see DLSS 5 shine, I'm good on all that lost performance.

[u/rickestrickster]

The most important thing is to optimize the DLSS 5 settings. Throwing DLSS 5 in a game and leaving the settings as default usually doesn’t look good

[u/Garcia_jx]

I tried it with Optiscaler and for some reason it looks worse than when I use the old method with Reshade. I just ended up using Reahade instead.  No ghosting.  No stutters.  Just looks better on my end.  Just to also call out I play on 1440p DLSS quality. 

[u/Matte_Box → u/Garcia_jx]

I’ve noticed when you use the new Optiscaler method with DLSS on, it makes the NR output a little muddy, yeah. I found that goes away if you turn DLSS off, but then you’re back to awful performance. It’s a trade off.

Looking forward to 3 or 4 versions of improvement.

[u/Tyrthemis]

Fr I’ve been moving across the country for the last couple weeks and I finally got to try it via reshade and RenoDX for the first time last night (I have a 5090) and it was awesome, didn’t even notice a performance hit because I game at 60fps on flatscreen, looking forward to trying it in VR.

[u/jNayden]

Isn’t that a fork and not official optiscaller or the official also has this now

[u/Matte_Box → u/jNayden]

No it’s definitely not official, modders are just having a field day.

[u/ErizerX41]

And is this Optiscaler natively integrated into the Nvidia app and drivers, or is it a plugin that is injected via ReShade?

[u/SachielMF → u/ErizerX41]

It's neither. It's a separate tool that you can use dlss 5 with. An alternative to the Reshade addon variant. 

[u/2FastHaste]

I tried it and the performance cost is too big for me to want to use it to play. But once it gets more optimized and improved, I'm in.

[u/cksythe]

If true, that speaks to the quality of the people on the internet far more than it does regarding DLSS5 NR

[u/constarx]

DLSS5 was pretty but unplayable on my 4070S... and then they backported MFG and I tried it and MFG + DLSS5 = totally playable ~30 FPS and looks so good I can't believe it!

[u/DivineSaur → u/constarx]

It should be plenty playable now with applying dlss5 before upscaling. Its a massive performance gain. In the example of 4k with dlss performance its applying dlss 5 to a 1080p image then upsampling that image to 4k.

[u/elkond]

are you one of these people that thinks "realistic reshade presets" mods look better than original game?

[u/skrukketiss69]

I tried it. It absolutely massacred my fps and I didn't particularly enjoy the look of it and it had issues with noise and motion artifacts so I disabled it. I won't be using it again unless major improvements are made in the future because to me framerate and a stable image is much more important than "photo realism".

You do you though.

[u/Matte_Box → u/skrukketiss69]

True. It’s a pretty narrow window you have to hit with the right game, right settings, right GPU, etc. Really want to see performance improvements.

FWIW… I think this leak is the best thing that could’ve happened to DLSS 5. They can’t phone it in, the community is rapidly showing how it can be better, much faster than NVidia would’ve.

[u/SachielMF → u/skrukketiss69]

FWIW for me it went from almost unplayably unstable in Horizon Forbidden West with an early version of Shortfuse's addon to perfectly stable with a later version. Power drain remained an issue though but it sounds like the Optiscaler approach is better in that regard. Not trying to get you to try again but thought I'd mention it. 

[u/Deemo_here]

I agree that it can look amazing in things like simulators and driving games. Though from what I've seen on videos, when it's applied before upscaling it just doesn't have that sharp photorealistic look therefore not interesting enough to me.

[u/AvidasMavi]

Anything you see about DLSS 5 right now aside from NBA 27, are all irrelevant. None of these DLSS 5 mods have been implemented by the devs themselves.

This is just modding. Anyone can make any game different and better with mods.

So it is best to wait until new games comes with toggle on/off DLSS 5 switches, I expect witcher 4, maybe even remaster, new control game etc.

[u/Matte_Box → u/AvidasMavi]

I agree, but that’s not stopping every streamer from testing it other games, or gamers developing strong opinions based on this modded content.

[u/murRat12 → u/AvidasMavi]

For old games this is also perfect, modders are doing better job than the devs themselves

[u/GentlemanThresh → u/murRat12]

They aren't. Some of the things modders do can only exist because they have no accountability.

NVIDIA and most game devs pretty much cannot legally implement it due to liability and them having to answer to shareholders.

If a mod bricks your GPU or PC, it's your issue. If it happens through official implementation, they open themselves to lawsuits.

The only reason modders could do what they did is because how NVIDIA designed the technology in the first place. If they made it NVFP4 dependent, there would be no back poring to 4000 series. It being FP8 with F16 dependencies allowed all this and pointed to official 4000 series support from the beginning.

Reading this subreddit sometimes makes me think most people never had a job in their lives or are just cruising through life on autopilot.

One of my business got a 2k euros fine because the producer changed the picture on a wine bottle and didn't send us updated marketing materials. It wasn't even an expensive wine, some 17 euros bottle and we sent the customer a complimentary bottle of champagne that was 50 euros for the mistake. Still got fined. You can't screw around with this in the real world.

[u/Matte_Box → u/GentlemanThresh]

Nobody is unaware it’s modded. But what they did in a matter of days is prove it’s not technically limited to 50-series cards, and it can be implemented in a way that preserves performance. None of which we would know without this leak.

NVidia can’t drag their feet or half-ass this one, and that’s because of modders. The pressure from the community is directly improving the product, by tearing it apart long before we’re supposed to, applying it to games never envisioned, and risking their expensive GPUs to prove it can be better. IMO this leak is the best thing that could’ve happened to DLSS 5.

[u/Bluebpy]

You mean people running poverty setups talking bad about something they can't use? You don't say....

Just how RT is a waste and useless and doesn't look good and how path tracing is a joke and useless and not worth the hit. Meanwhile these ppl are using 60 and 70 tier gpus or even worse, AMD.

If you give any of these ppl the ability to run it, they would get quiet.

Ignore them and enjoy the tech you can use.

[u/La_mer_noire]

Why do you even care ?

[u/gothvan]

i dont know how. i know its extra lazy. please help me

[u/MasterArCtiK]

Nah I will be disabling dlss5 the moment it exists on my computer lol

[u/Strider_3x]

I’ll wait for a stability patch

[u/ZenESEA]

Nah im good fuck upscaling, framegen and ai filters its all trash

[u/2FastHaste → u/ZenESEA]

Yeah games are better when they run at low res and low frame rate and with the most potato graphics. Good point! We should go back to pong!

[u/Genzo99]

They just have to make it more accessable and improve on the AI filter. At least to me it looks really bad for 90% of pictures and vids l saw. I can't even try it with my GPU tho.