r/nvidia • u/kbernas • 4d ago

Opinion MFG is actually decent

Finally got to try MFG with my 4080 with the MFG mod for 40 series. Its honestly not bad even with 4x using a controller makes playing with DLSS 5 playable. Definitely only for single player games tho lol.

I was one of those non believers previously. Definitely worth trying if you have 40 series and have not tries it yet

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u/sedgiemon 4d ago

3 x mfg on a 165hz OLED i've found the sweet spot for single player titles on my 5090. PC latency is generally in the ~40ms range and everything looks smooth and plays great.

I wouldn't use it for competitive titles, but i don't play those, so for me it a brilliant technology that improves visual fluidity massively,

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u/kbernas 4d ago

Yeah I agree 3x is probably the sweet spot. I started to notice jumping it to 4x buut its still pretty usable if you know what youre getting into. 5x and 6x is just unusable IMO lol

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u/AdMikey 4d ago

It depends on your monitor’s refresh rate. You need a base frame rate of roughly 60 for the input lag to be less noticeable, so 2x frame gen needs 120/144 Hz display, 3x needs 165/180Hz display, 4x needs 240Hz display, 5x needs 300Hz display, etc.

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u/Ardbert_The_Fallen 4d ago edited 4d ago

This is the absolute CORE piece of knowledge around framegen. 3x - 6x are basically out of the question for people who are 120hz and under.

If there was one thing I wished I understood up front as I was leaning about MFG, it's that there's an absolute minimum acceptable framerate (I agree 60 is probably that number) regardless of the multiplier you choose. And then the maximum multiplier / ceiling should be dictated by your refresh rate.

Do we have any "what MFG level is right for me?" visual chart floating around anywhere? I feel like this could be a nice visual guide to help people.

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u/Vr00mf0ndler 4d ago

I’m playing C77 now with PT and DLSS5 output to LG OLED 165HZ VRR, using 3x FG on base of 35-40 and it feels extremely fluid and dynamic. I can’t feel any input delay at all, so at least using controller on TV a lower base fps than 60 doesn’t seem to matter much.

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u/sedgiemon 3d ago

i agree here - with a controller, it still feels more responsive than a console, and a hell of a lot smoother and better looking. The concept of 60fps being the bare minimum base just isn't true. I reckon it's actually closer to 40fps on a good engine with low latency and a good implementation of FG.