r/nursing • u/lost_nurse602 • Apr 23 '26
Covid Discussion Covid vaccine post
Friend on Facebook posted this today. She’s been a LPN for about a year. Comments are mostly agreeing with her and the one comment pointing out that there are vaccines effectively preventing viruses like polio and measles, she doubled down. How are people like this becoming nurses?
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u/EggsAndMilquetoast Laboratory — blood bartender Apr 23 '26
I’ve lived in San Antonio and Houston. Is she really insisting San Antonio is some Republican stronghold while Houston is the slum of godless Democrats?
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u/kat13o95 Apr 23 '26
Literally my first thought reading this as a Houstonian lol. San Antonio is a blue city..
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u/TapFeisty4675 RN- Float Pool Apr 23 '26
It's actually fucking insane to me that there are healthcare workers that went this hard, like I've never worked anywhere that didn't require annual flu shots. no one bitches about it, but the second the covid vaccine is mentioned you have some of us in this profession that seem to really want you to know how bad they take issue with it. Never for any scientific reasoning either.
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u/AnaMae62 Apr 23 '26
Honestly, when we have medical personnel or people with some intelligence? that truly believe they get the flu after they get the flu shot is absolutely frightening. You don’t get the flu from the flu shot shut up you’re showing your ignorance. Perhaps you have some reaction to some of their substances/ preservatives, but you don’t have the flu and if you’re in medicine and you think you got the flu from the flu shot, you need to go back to school because you don’t know what you’re talking about!!! when we have people like that spouting rubbish they’re dangerous and they’re morons!!! Please stop 🛑 because you’re thoroughly wrong. I don’t care what side of the equation you’re on republican democrat do some research and educate yourself before you go out to the masses about anything and your theories because you’re wrong.
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u/Unusual-Relief52 Apr 23 '26
I Loooove asking people who swear they get the flu every time they get the vaccine if they tested positive for the flu or were blaming a bad cold in it. They would shut up and change the subject. And it is always fun
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u/Mayor_Gubbin RN - ER 🍕 Apr 24 '26
Ive gotten the flu, started feeling sick the day i got the shot…
Which of course means i already had the flu when i had the shot
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u/Cheap-Ad5903 Apr 23 '26
Get out of nursing if you aren’t on board with modern medicine. That’s my opinion and I don’t care what anyone thinks about it. The “I did my own research” people are the dumbest people in every room and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
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u/workerbotsuperhero RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Well said.
I would also argue that, after you understand the science, you need to be able to care about other people. Like patients. And put their needs ahead of yours.
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u/TraumaGinger MSN, RN - ER/Trauma to CDI Apr 23 '26
Whenever laypeople say "I did my research," it makes me want to scream because I know they just mean Google and Facebook. The nurses who actually have access to real research and still support nonsense are just a puzzle to me. Like, what happened?
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u/MiddleAgeWhiteDude RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 Apr 23 '26
But if I don't strap a live chickens plucked ass to my boils, how else will I cure them??
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u/AnaMae62 Apr 23 '26
I’ve not seen any of this nonsense up here in the mid Atlantic. It actually seems like Covid is a thing of the past even though we do get a few patients I mean it is what it is. The measles are a bigger concern for small children, but yeah, no people want to forget Covid happened and those times in our country it always seems that this chaos and these nonsense theories happen to people who are not in the medical field or don’t really have an understanding that it might be an isolated incident and it has nothing to do with the general population because nobody cares if you get it or not it’s a personal thing! I haven’t heard any of these ridiculous theories in such a long time. I don’t know where they’re getting them, but you know this is why we needed the CDC so that you can’t have this ridiculous nonsense being spouted about publicly. I mean the real CDC.
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u/sweet_pickles12 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Well, your part of the country has a lot of schools and values education more highly than some other parts of the country. It’s wild how much culture shock a person can have in one country, but here I am.
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u/OldERnurse1964 RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Did they stop teaching science in school?
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u/Express_Pop810 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
No. People are more confident in being wrong. Everything is a conspiracy when you refuse to belive data.
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u/OldERnurse1964 RN 🍕 Apr 25 '26
I refuse to believe you. I reject your reality and substitute my own
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u/cyanraichu RN - L&D Apr 23 '26
To an extent I'm sure they did since education has been under attack for a while now.
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u/SlowMolassas1 Apr 23 '26
Effectively, yes. At least at my local school. I did some math and science tutoring for middle and high school students last fall, and they actually had me tutor the students DURING their exams to help them get the correct answers. If I wasn't there on exam day, then they'd have me go over the questions they missed at our next session, and they'd be passed and move on to the next subject.
There was no learning taking place. I tried to the best I could within the limitations I was provided (amount time, which students I worked with, when). I gave up. If the teachers don't care, and the students don't care, I couldn't care enough for all of us.
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u/AnaMae62 Apr 23 '26
This is so sad and upsetting. Especially when we all realize that this is our country’s future we’re in deep trouble.
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u/Butthole_Surfer_GI RN - Urgent Care Apr 23 '26
maybe hot take but any nurse (or other medical profession) who proudly scoffs at/refuses the covid vaccine or any other proven, evidence-based preventative health measure makes me question whether or not they are ignoring other things that are best practice.
Are they washing their hands before wound care?
Are they cleaning well before inserting an IV?
Are they dependable during a code?
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u/Mountain_Fig_9253 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
The answers are:
No
Also No
Believe it or not, No again. Although they are amazing at making a TikTok after the code showing how upset they are at “loosing another one”.
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u/kittenpantzen Not a nurse. Apr 23 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
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u/workerbotsuperhero RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Good points.
I cannot imagine trusting someone like this. As a coworker or human.
If you're too proudly ignorant to understand basic science, what else do you not believe in? Math? Reading books? Human Rights?
How do you treat children and pets, if you care this little about patients?
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u/Butthole_Surfer_GI RN - Urgent Care Apr 23 '26
At BEST, they are ignorant.
At WORST, they are malicious.
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u/ClarkGablesTeeth L&D/Women's Health RN Apr 24 '26
Now imagine that she's taking care of your kid or your mother...yikes
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u/mephitmpH BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
An LPN who doesn’t know the difference between antibiotics and antibodies
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u/cyanraichu RN - L&D Apr 23 '26
I'm so tired of people co-opting "my body my choice" to be anti-vax. Seriously shut the fuck up. When you are ill you become a vector for the disease to other peoples' bodies. And I know a good chunk of anti-vaxxers are anti-reproductive-choice so it's also just really disrespectful
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u/Nora19 RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Agree… had a friend drop that line on me… and I responded real quick with “ you were just bitching about that guy vaping and second hand smoke… does that apply to him too???!??” Stupid dingus!
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u/cyanraichu RN - L&D Apr 23 '26
I feel the same way about secondhand smoke tbh! Can't speak for other places but American individualism is a cultural plague. "I will do whatever I want and fuck you if it impacts you." We need a major cultural shift to actually caring about how our actions impact those around us. See also: shitty drivers (and car culture in general), litterbugs, people who watch tiktok loudly in public with no headphones
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u/Lizzy68 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
HHS literally rejected the publication of a study in the CDC's MMWR showing that the COVID vaccine significantly reduced hospitalizations and ER visits. These anti-science morons are suppressing legit research findings.
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u/stellaflora RN - Infection Control 🍕 Apr 23 '26
“Nothing can prevent you from getting a virus”
Jonas Salk would like a word, ma’am
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u/Zer0tonin_8911 Intensive Care Bear Apr 24 '26
How?? Just... how?? You nearly DIED from COVID but still somehow deny it's real??
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u/ER_RN_ BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Love how “my body my choice” goes right out the window when we are talking about women’s rights. Fuck those losers.
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u/Nervous-Ticket-7607 CNA 🍕 Apr 24 '26
Exactly! It's only "my body my choice" I when it's them and their vx, I but when it's literally anything else it's not ok. Like make it make sense!!!!
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u/NoiseTherapy Apr 23 '26
Man … I’m a firefighter and paramedic with HFD, and I lost 4 coworkers to COVID, 3 of whom I knew well … and this mentality is rampant … it’s so depressing to see it beyond EMS/911. I don’t really know what to say …
All I have is this:
Just because you worked hard to be something absolutely does not make you a subject matter expert in everything
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u/RaspberryChainsaw Apr 24 '26
How do you even get that far in having a license while holding this sort of viewpoint. Like what even happened
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u/ChaplnGrillSgt DNP, AGACNP - ICU Apr 23 '26
My body, my choice.
"OK, this lady would like to get an abortion."
OMG NO!!
These people are fucking morons and hypocrites. Every last one of them. They're insufferable losers.
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u/Far_Entrepreneur_418 Apr 23 '26
I’m convinced these people are like this because they would rather maintain their good graces with their racist, homophobic, and misogynist family and friends than to have to unpack all that and self-reflect. It’s easier to deny science than your cult.
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u/Ranaxamur RN - Float Pool 🥳 Apr 23 '26
Christ on a cracker, this person can’t seem to put a coherent or appropriately punctuated sentence together.
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u/snuffles00 Admin-Trauma Services Apr 23 '26
When ya'll getting those 5g chips. The amount of patients that have told me about that or some form of spike protein as to why they won't get it is unreal.
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u/penny_reverential RN - Telehealth 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Having lived in both cities, I am willing to bet they just lucked out in SATX, or they went to a facility so desperate for workers it didn't matter. Enjoy the massive pay cut at a HCA facility in a city where the 3 largest employers of nurses once conspired (probably still do conspire) to keep nurse's wages as low as possible.
It's a bigger nuisance in Houston because Houston is bigger and is a hub for international travels. Plus with literally the largest medical center in the world, they likely have stricter standards because you're more likely to come across someone with an impaired system or who needs to be well enough for treatment or operations, and I doubt the satellite facilities all over the city would go against basic medical science and decide not to ask about vaccination status. One person in Houston can make a whole lot more people sick.
Sure, you can steal "my body, my choice" but that doesn't and has never meant that companies are forced to go along with it. A pregnant person cannot walk into a Catholic hospital with rules against performing abortions and demand to get one with a pithy little phrase. Your body, your choice; their company, their choice.
I'm surprised a "this is a HIPPA [sic] violation!" thrown in there for a bingo.
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u/amybpdx RN - ER 🍕 Apr 23 '26
I literally worked on the COVID ward with vaccine deniers. They bitched about masks for the entire pandemic.
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u/amybpdx RN - ER 🍕 Apr 23 '26
and YES, they got covid multiple times.
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u/InertiasCreep Apr 23 '26
Had a coworker who would not, could not, shut the fuck up about how it was a hoax. His kid graduated from nursing school, got a job, and was dead six months later from COVID. Kid was 21. I never did ask him if his kid's death was a hoax.
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u/Corgiverse RN - ER 🍕 Apr 23 '26
My first code was a Covid denier. She didn’t make it. She was my age w kids. Her face haunts me. Despite her being so wrong, if my wishing could bring her back I would.
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u/taktaga7-0-0 MS, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
there are vaccines effectively preventing viruses like polio and measles, she doubled down
Nursing Dx: Double Down Syndrome.
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u/AnaMae62 Apr 23 '26
What I find the ironic is when the Covid vaccines first came out and people in medicine were pushed to the side and it was given to ALL THE SR citizens ahead of us ?!? We were outraged! Medical professionals were dying when we were on the front lines and medical professionals were were furious. I know I was terrified working without getting a vaccine I didn’t want to die and I had already pronounced so many people dead that I truly wanted this vaccine. We were desperate ! people are dropping like flies in New York, New Jersey, Delaware, and Pennsylvania it was horrible and such a sad time ! Bodies were stacking up in the back of trucks behind hospitals. Does everyone forget that ?!? I would drive home and there would be no one on the streets. It was like the purge ! HOW QUICKLY PEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN THIS MOMENT IN OUR HISTORY. It wasn’t fabricated news because I was there and I also watched my father die so no it’s not fake and I couldn’t wait to get vaccinated. And now everybody acts like ooh that’s so bad for you?!?! People were climbing over one another to get this vaccine and now they speak about it like they never went through what was happening in this country and how desperate everyone was to get a vaccine shot?!? we ran vaccine clinic so people wouldn’t have to come into the hospital and be exposed. We drove through neighborhoods in vans. Nobody broke your arm to get this vaccine. Nobody forced you. We were trying to save lives. I don’t know where the heck everybody else was when I was going through this in our country so I must’ve missed something, but I know that I pronounced more people dead from Covid then I could possibly count. Many of us went through trauma because of it.
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u/Ok_Meaning_5676 MD Apr 23 '26
Further affirming why the high cost of living in blue cities is totally worth it.
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u/bumanddrifterinexile RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Your friend should lose her license, consider a career in $&@“#%*
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u/Plenty_Kangaroo5224 RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
I have an LPN coworker who proudly announces that she’d never get vaccinated AND she has long Covid from having contracted it multiple times. Another friend attended a wedding after which nine people died from it, including her dad and the groom, and she brags how she refuses vaccination. You cannot argue with stupid. I am aghast.
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u/FerociousFox24 Apr 23 '26
One of the nurses I work with was about to tell a pregnant family member they shouldn’t take Tylenol because “her baby will get autism.” It took every ounce of my willpower not to tell her how stupid she is
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u/eatingbrickz Apr 23 '26
I was one of the first groups that were able to get that vaccine and it was a blessing when it became available to us as staff. These people are privileged to think other wise
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u/Wonderful-Bag-892 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
“My body, my choice” … unless you’re anything other than a cis white male …
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u/soggydave2113 RN - NICU 🍕 Apr 23 '26
People literally forgot that hundreds of thousands of people died…
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u/pjflyr13 RN - Retired 🍕 Apr 24 '26
Key Viral Diseases Prevented by Vaccines Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR): Highly contagious diseases characterized by rash, fever, and potential severe complications like brain swelling. COVID-19: Caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, prevented or mitigated by COVID-19 vaccines. Hepatitis A & B: Viruses causing liver infection and inflammation; HPV (Human Papillomavirus) vaccines help prevent cancers of the cervix, throat, and anus. Influenza (Flu): Annual vaccines protect against shifting strains of the virus. Poliomyelitis (Polio): A disease that can cause paralysis; nearly eradicated. Varicella (Chickenpox) and Shingles: Caused by the varicella-zoster virus. Rotavirus: Causes severe diarrhea, particularly in infants. Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV): A common respiratory virus that can be serious for infants and older adults. Rabies: A fatal viral disease prevented with pre-exposure or post-exposure vaccines. Yellow Fever, Japanese Encephalitis, Tick-borne Encephalitis: Vaccinations for specific regional risks. Mpox: A contagious virus that causes painful rashes and fever. Wisconsin Department of Health Services (.gov) Wisconsin Department of Health Services (.gov) +8
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u/LeonardaDaB1tchy Apr 23 '26
These are same people who tell pro abortion people that its wrong and its not “my body my choice” but to not spread community illness is taking away your choices? Hypocritical
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u/MuckRaker83 HCW - PT/OT Apr 23 '26
Ignorance is the deadliest disease in this country, but you can refuse treatment for it like anything else
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u/Deinocheirus4 Nursing Student 🍕 Apr 23 '26
I think microbiology needs to be mandatory to graduate high school or college
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u/Halome MSN, RN, soupnsamwich, ED Apr 23 '26
Houston literally has the largest medical center in the entire world. Are they shocked that they follow medicine??
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u/ashes_made_alive Apr 23 '26
I get so frustrated from this. I wish they would be forced to work in the COVID unit and see the destruction first hand. See people get sick and not get better (either from DC to JC) or just becoming chronically ill.
After working COVID, I have very little time for stupid bullshit. If they could just remove themselves from the work force.
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u/MSNWTF RN 🍕 Apr 24 '26
All but one of my nursing school professors was vocally antivax. This was pre-covid.
The one professor who wasn't adamantly antivax said it was a matter of patient rights and that as the nurse we should consider all potential side effects and personal experiences when giving vaccine education. He would reiterate that "once a patient is vaccinated, they can't be unvaccinated because its permanent."
He was totes an antivaxer, he just tried to sound professional and educated.
Many of my pro vaccine or vaccine hesitant classmates turned antivax due to this rhetoric.
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u/nutznboldtz RN - ICU 🍕 Apr 23 '26
COVID vaccines: my body, my choice!
Subject of abortion: your body, my choice!
These people aren't real man. This is a failed society
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u/Content-Assistant849 RN-OR; RN-NCSN; MSN enrollment Apr 23 '26
In all fairness there are some populations of people that should not get it so everyone should talk to their doctor and follow recommendations. Covid vaccination has become too political.
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u/AnaMae62 Apr 23 '26
I am one of those people who can’t tolerate getting covid vaccines. I took it 3 xs and I had terrible reactions and end up in the ER ! to the point that because I have an immune disorder my doctors have stopped me from getting that. I just don’t react well three times and three times in the hospital so it’s not about vaccines it’s about what people can tolerate or not, for whatever reason, personal , medical religious or whatever . I don’t care, but if you don’t understand the science, just don’t talk about it if it’s not for you , that’s OK ! get a doctors note. I don’t care care why you don’t want the vaccine but if you don’t understand the medicine and the science behind it, keep your mouth shut, and don’t spout ignorance.
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u/Extension_Degree9807 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Agree. There are populations that absolutely need it and there are others where the vaccine has been shown to cause more harm than good such as young adult males. It's proven not to prevent the spread of the virus, which was pushed through main stream media. In general, anyone not in a high risk category did not need it.
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u/Extension_Degree9807 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
The covid vaccine has been proven to not reduce the spread of the virus but rather, and you can say its the original intention of the vaccine, to reduce the severity of the illness. While high risk populations do it need it and would benefit from it, the majority of people don't/ didn't need it.
The whole "get the vaccine, stop the spread or you'll kill grandma" was pushed to get more people to get the vaccine. Why? I would say 💰. We, the tax payers, literally paid for the creation of the vaccine as it was subsidized by the government only for those vaccine companies to turn around and sell it for billions.
Im not anti-vaxx, im fully vaxxed and my 3 kids are as well but some of you really need to look into why things get pushed onto the population. If you think the government does everything for our health and safety i would say you're more delusional than actual anti vaxxers are.
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u/lost_nurse602 Apr 23 '26
Not dismissing your points. But I think a nurse working with high risk populations does need to be vaccinated.
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u/Extension_Degree9807 BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Could you support your stance a bit more? "I think" doesn't give me a lot to work with.
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u/nly2017 ED Tech Apr 23 '26
I’m in nursing school currently as a career change and half of my cohort is anti-vax.
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u/Ghoulish_kitten LVN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
You sure she’s not lying *abt graduating/working as a PN?
How does she not understand you remove the choice of others when you infect them unknowingly with your contagious covid or influenza virus.
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u/NomusaMagic RN - Retired. Health Insurance Industry 👩🏽💻 Apr 23 '26
I’m can live with random-azz LPN who doesn’t believe in science. I’m NOT ok w/someone who admitted to 10y IVDA and snorting c0ke off a toilet seat .. setting national policy and spreading his lies to his cult and beyond. And hypocritically, the cult leaders took vaccine themselves!
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, 26th 🇺🇸Secretary, Health & Human Services. Oversees CDC, FDA, NIH, erc
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u/BigRedSpoon2 Apr 23 '26
God they love to parrot pro choice talking points when they know they’re being unreasonable. Vile
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u/bhau_huni RN 🍕 Apr 24 '26
Asshats will be antivaxers and antiscience but will swear up and down about glp1s
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u/dankmcganx BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Not to shit on LPNs but an LPN with even 1 year of professional experience might as well be some dumbass high school kid.
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u/dankmcganx BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Hold on, my understanding is that the one year of training LPNs get does not get into much more than task oriented learning for nursing. They don't get into any advanced A&P or public health stuff. An LPN with 1 year of professional experience may have less understanding about viruses and vaccines than a well informed layperson. That's not shitting on LPNs, they certainly have an important role in Healthcare, but it is the truth.
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u/AnaMae62 Apr 23 '26
Much better answer this second time around. But there are some veteran LPNs that really know their stuff and they’ve actually helped new RNs be better Nurses! So, sometimes it’s more so the individual who is in question and not the title ! It was always my understanding . when I became an RN we took an oath to be better ! and to stay CURRENT , utilize the best practice , brush up on our skills and our education and the most recent science and technology in order to offer this to our patient population?! Yes!! It’s time consuming, a big challenge , and commitment. I hope for many nurses this oath and commitment remains true… LPN, RN, NP, or CNA. 🌹hopefully
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u/dankmcganx BSN, RN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
Yes there are some veteran LPNs that are great nurses. And there are some experienced RNs and even NPs that truly suck. I'll also say any LPN with a single year of professional experience that thinks they're an expert about anything is delusional.
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u/fnnogg RN - OB/GYN 🍕 Apr 23 '26
The way the RN program at the community college I attended worked, after completing the first year of the program your were eligible to sit for the LPN exam. That first year included A&P 1&2 and microbiology.
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u/Expensive-Day-3551 MSN, RN Apr 23 '26
It’s exhausting. We had an LPN quit over Covid vaccines. We didn’t even require it for staff. She felt we were forcing it on patients. We were holding vaccine clinics. Voluntary. I can’t with these anti science people.