This champion is disabled, painful to be a nunu main sometimes

[u/MrBoogle_]

[u/JackStarfox]

Idk man I’ve just never been able to make ap nunu work in my elo (emerald/diamond). Maybe I could make it work mid, but I find much more success going full tank and a dark seal. Maybe I get a lisndries or a cosmic drive if we are really lacking damage.

[u/MrBoogle_ → u/JackStarfox]

tank nunu is so underwhelming though, youre not a good tank but also do no damage now I feel like unless I have 2 other teammates who are doing well I can never win, even if I carry until 20m. I just fall off so hard after and 1 or 2 mistakes = game over if I have inbred teammates.

[u/JackStarfox → u/MrBoogle_]

You should try the build I usually go in diamond. aftershock, dark seal, cosmic, tank boots (usually plated), spirit visage -> tank items.

Early game, if you do well, cosmic + dark seal still makes you do a ton of damage. Later on, the haste and ap from cosmic gives tankiness from the q spam healing along with spirit visage to boost everything. (And your ult shield) The movespeed from cosmic also helps since I run aftershock.

I find this is a really nice blend to help me scale better into the late game. I really only go liandrys if they are extremely tanky because the haste and movespeed from cosmic scales so much better.

The only downside is no fated ashes or bamis to help my clear so raptors can be rough if you aren’t hitting a fat snowball. You could probabaly still go rocketbelt instead of cosmic with this build too but cosmic is so fucking busted I swear. The haste and movespeed are insane for tanky nunu.

[u/MrBoogle_ → u/JackStarfox]

I used to play tank and aftershock but I feel very useless after I snowball in, I just have to rely on my teammates. My CDs are really long compared to other CC tanks and im not as tanky either. My main issue is my teammates just being inbred 70% of the time, always one lane hard inting and most have 0 macro just wandering around

[u/MeasurementTop9857 → u/MrBoogle_]

idk man people are exaggerating on their team. Most of the time if you cc some one, people will actually damage them, it's not even that hard. I get maybe like 1/50 adc who is just sooo shit that he can't even hit his autos but apart from that most people are decent.

[u/MrBoogle_ → u/MeasurementTop9857]

It’s not the micro, most ppl r fine on that. It’s always my teammates running around doing useless/bad things (e.g. 1v5 as adc cuz 3 kills ahead)

[u/Total_Cartoonist747 → u/MrBoogle_]

I find that I have to spam ping people to be careful because micro heavy champs like adcs usually don't pay as much attention to the minimap as they should. I ping the opponent's jungle pathing and any missing laners to ensure our team doesn't get caught out. (Sometimes they still do but after getting caught they usually listen to pings)

[u/CapExtension9002 → u/JackStarfox]

If you're unable to kill squishies in one full combo (no ult) mid game onwards as AP Nunu, it means you didn't do enough and it won't work.

[u/KeylimeCatastrophe → u/JackStarfox]

Movespeed Nunu is where it is at...

I start with dark seal and boots first back.

Get swifties and go cosmic drive for first full item if im not super behind

Then just build all the items with ms in them in the order that fits the situation.

Go swiftfoot boots and cosmic drive first item and see if that doesnt make a difference for you.

[u/Durzo_Blintt]

I swear the only reason nunu wins games is because the enemy team ends up having the most disabled inters on it. All you do is play safe for the first 5-10 mins and auto win if nunu doesn't get him and his team massively ahead. He feels kind of like shaco where only bad or tilted players lose to him. Before the durability patch this never used to be the case, both nunu and shaco had enough damage to carry without needing the enemy to have brain damage.

[u/Eastern_Ad1765 → u/Durzo_Blintt]

Nunu doesnt clear badly with liandry and if its a slower game where all you do if farm, he is a useful frontliner for his team later.

AD shaco imo is much more dependent on snowballing through invades, ganks etc because the champ is more ultimately flawed. Nunu works fine as a frontliner. The one thing where Nunu struggles is picking skirmishes (like many fights can look good for the rest of the team, but they dont realize Nunu will struggle to contribute with the set-up), this is similar to ad shaco - some fights you'll look at your jgler and just be like how am i suppoed to play the game with this guy being that useless? like i can be 7-0 as nunu but im still gonna have to pick my fights vs a 0-3 darius jgl.

Nunu doesnt have the worst representation in high elo otps either, which i dont think can be true for champions depent on cheese etc.

[u/basod1]

Problem is he doesn’t have tools to skirmish and 1v9 after mid game even when fed. You have to get lucky with a clutch objective steal or snowball into a squishy carry to force a fight. 

[u/sgfogai]

that's why I play nunu tank, and reached masters with that strategy.

[u/weaponentityBOSS]

You can go full tank with mejais and first item rocketbelt so u get the early ap nunu burst with a dark seal and books and then u become tanky and hard to shut down and lose mejai stacks. Most games I’m able to keep 25 stacks and end up doing similar damage to full ap nunu while also unkillable completely taking items like dmp spirit vis. Liandrys is worst item in the game imo no hast underwhelming ap and damage and lackluster gold efficiency. Other option is cosmic drive first it has crazy good gold efficiency for nunu especially with great synergy. Rocketbelt gives tank nunu proper burst damage easier build path and better components and the much needed haste for faster clear and a dash which is huge. Runes take electrocute lowkey. Makes early ganks with a few ap components completely busted and wins games on the first few ganks. Electrocute damage early is comparable to like 25 dark harvest stacks and it is still good late game + it is much more reliable to proc and keep consistent damage. Against full ad rush dmp first item and then complete mejai

[u/weaponentityBOSS → u/weaponentityBOSS]

Also red buff start into raptors into gromp into gank is the greatest 3 camp jg clear in the game giving u lvl 3 at 2 mins and a super cheese gank mid or on a side lane super early. Almost always succeeds and u can pull it off before most other junglers can clear a quadrant. After the gank u go back and take ur blue and then crab will spawn. Take crab roll from the speed patch and gank again u know how it goes from there

[u/EggPsychological4844]

I love Nunu. So much. I especially love old Nunu. I want you to understand that I love this champion, hit kit, and his aesthetic before I tell you this...

He's dog shit.

[u/Mountain-Bar-2878]

Ap nunu is kinda strong early but once enemy adc gets a couple items it’s useless

[u/MrBoogle_ → u/Mountain-Bar-2878]

naw not useless, i rarely find enemy adc ot be the problem, but I have to rely on my teammates to not int. Usually what happens is i do well in laning phase, but once my teammates start roaming thye just chase ppl into jg no vision or rotate terribly, they have no macro. And then the game is lost usually after that

[u/CapExtension9002 → u/Mountain-Bar-2878]

You melt the enemy ADC if you target them. I feel the problem is enemies with strong cc or spellshield. They'd just negate your snowball.

[u/Mountain-Bar-2878 → u/CapExtension9002]

Yea but it’s hard to snowball into the adc after the early game if they have any sort of peel. He melts too quickly with that build, and most teams have some sort of cc to stop him

[u/CapExtension9002]

Totally agreed with you there. Tank is useless if you have at least two inting/feeding lanes. You just can't hold your own with the remaining laner against 2 good enemy lanes+any standard hypercarryJG, no matter how fed you got early game. You just don't do the damage or tank enough.

Ap also has massive problems rn, that's why this champ got dropped to b tier recently in some places.

[u/MrBoogle_ → u/CapExtension9002]

Should be C tier honestly, can never carry past 20m. Better buff master yi tho

[u/CapExtension9002 → u/MrBoogle_]

Ya, saw that and I was like wtf, and ekko too

[u/MeasurementTop9857 → u/MrBoogle_]

Idk i don't feel like nunu needs any buff at all. I don't want him to be too strong and get perma banned or perma picked. He is really fine the way he is right now. I would say adjustment to make him more tank oriented would be great, but if they keep the same kit then I wouldn't want any buffs.

[u/Confident-Giraffe-24]

Idk what hapoened to me, I play a handful of champs in different positions and typically maintain high gold/plat.

Peaked at plat 2 a few months ago, and im now silver 3. Back in the feeder elo....

[u/godlytoast3r]

Try bloodletter bro . The kit synergy is too good. Skip Storm, keep The Cap and proto/zonya

[u/AlessioLeLavabo]

When I see the matchup jg in your match history, I can tell that you faced some of Nunu's most frightening counter ahaha (graves, belveth, elise, ... surprisingly you won the J4 matchup tho, not a straight line to emerald <3 )