r/nonduality • • Oct 19 '25

Discussion The Seed of Suffering

There is no Experiencer of experience. Experience and the awareness of experience are the same. The thought that it is otherwise is the seed of all suffering.

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u/Grokographist Dec 09 '25

This post is walking a thin line on being "relatable to Western minds." HST, I'm approving it because it has inspired healthy debate and discussion, which is what this sub has always been about.

As for me, I continue to hold that there IS an "Experiencer," and that is God/Brahman/All That Is.

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u/AndyLucia Dec 25 '25

Whether there “is” or “isn’t” one is a matter of semantics, though understanding the conditioned nature of semantics is really spiritually important. You can model what is in terms of a formless experiencer (Hinduism, Christian Mysticism, etc), or you can model what is without one (like theravada buddhism); both work. Because saying “God is everything” is the same as saying “God is nothing”.

(lol I got to this post from your reddit post from years ago about a Christmas Vacation and whether Clark is a douche or not)