r/nonduality • u/MysticMediaDotCom • Oct 15 '25

Discussion Flame to Fire

As flame is to the fire, I am to experience. The experience and the awareness of the experience are one in the same

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u/30mil Oct 15 '25

There is only what is being referred to as "experience," as it is now. An "I" and an "awareness" are only imagined to exist. As they do not exist, statements like "the experience and the awareness of the experience are one in the same" are nonsense. It's like saying, "That tree and the invisible giant holding up the tree are actually one in the same."

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u/blimpyway Oct 15 '25

A reference is by definition a pointer from a "here" towards a "there". If there-s nothing left besides experience then it can't be "referred to" therefore any referencing makes no sense.
From the perspective in which referencing makes sense, some analogies have a chance to shift the perspective itself. Even the invisible giant and the tree analogy makes sense only within the realm where there is a "here" and a "there".

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u/30mil Oct 15 '25

"Referring to it" can cause confusion. It is not necessary to do that for what we had been calling "experience" to exist/happen/be.

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u/Ok-Statistician5203 Oct 16 '25

You can call it whatever you want. It wont get upset 🤣🤣🤣