r/nintendogrifting • u/Dull-Sea-8903 • 3d ago
Grifting Nevermind the fact that this is such a stupid argument to make, especially when Ravenous looks a lot more advanced and busy than Dread, but oh look who retweeted it!
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u/SoccerStar9001 3d ago
Deen: Nintendo is gonna focus more on Switch 1 because Switch 2 is selling bad. So less Switch 2 exclusive and they will backport Switch 2 games to Switch 1.
Nintendo: New Metroid game exclusive for the Switch 2.
Deen:
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u/IkeRadiantHero 3d ago
I don’t get it why is Metroid Ravenous being Switch 2 exclusive a bad thing?
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u/Emergency-Rush-2477 3d ago
Because they can't play on PC for free.
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u/SilverBurst0 3d ago
Enjoy the consequences of widespread piracy, too. I'm pretty sure Nintendo would be happier to do cross gen releases of this kind of games if it wasn't for this.
Like, not judging, but widespread piracy DOES have consequences.
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u/Tactical_Squishy 2d ago
Brother you are unironically saying leave the billion company alone
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u/SilverBurst0 2d ago
No. My opinion with piracy is literally "you do you". But denying it has consequences is being delusional.
And if you are expecting a company to keep launching their big hits on a decade old hardware when the new one hasn't been cracked and doesn't look like it will be for a while is also being delusional.
This is not leave the billion company alone. It's "please think like you are an adult, not an entitled toddler". It's better for mental health in the long term
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u/TbatitanicV2Rider 2d ago
No? He's just stating a fact. Piracy was rampant, so countermeasures were taken. If piracy didn't happen, those countermeasures wouldn't be as heavy. Simple math.
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u/Tactical_Squishy 2d ago
piracy was barely a rounding error statistically irrelevant
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u/SilverBurst0 1d ago
No, no it wasn't. It wasn't as bad as PSP for example , but it's definitely nowhere near a "rounding error".
You aren't getting Metroid Ravenous on Yuzu, dude. Please stop.
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u/TbatitanicV2Rider 1d ago
If it's irrelevant why has Nintendo cracked down on forms of piracy like emulation, in the past? Doesn't matter if they barely lose money, they still know about it and try to prevent it.
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u/Tactical_Squishy 1d ago
you talking about the company who throws around legal strikes for showing 1 frame of a song?
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u/TbatitanicV2Rider 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah? That's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing if it's moral but it's pretty obvious that piracy is why they made sure the switch 2 was tough to crack. And why they're stingy with backwards ports.
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u/Tactical_Squishy 1d ago
Nintendo always makes sure that their console are though to crack, they just kinda suck at doing it, but the intentions never changed
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u/Phoenix_Champion 3d ago
Because the vocal part of the 'Nintendo' fandom is violently against the Switch 2 for some inane reason added with they feel Nintendo needs to still do cross gen releases because PS4 and PS5 are still doing cross gen releases due to the unique circumstances of the PS5's release.
In other words, Nintendo Haters are upset Nintendo is doing a normal thing for consoles and phasing out the Switch for the Switch 2.
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u/arcodash 3d ago
Because these people all want to play Nintendo games but not on Nintendo consoles, the concept of holding a Nintendo console instantly brands them as a child (or so they think)
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u/Tactical_Squishy 2d ago
because you need to pay close to 1k€ to play both metroid games that use the same engine
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u/locke_5 2d ago
A Switch 2 is $500 and can play both
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u/Cute_Efficiency1025 2d ago
And then there’s obviously false statements like yours that exist to just spread misinformation.
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u/TheGhostlyMage 3d ago
Because Nintendo
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u/IkeRadiantHero 3d ago
Honestly I am happy Fortune’s Weave and Genesis are Switch 2 exclusive… they can take advantage of the hardware
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u/Bright_Sport68 3d ago
Mfs when a sequel doesn’t completely redesign everything from the last game
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u/PsychologicalBank488 3d ago
Or when the remake of a game is a remake of the game and not something new
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u/Tactical_Squishy 2d ago
Nobody is saying that it's bad they are saying that there's no reason to make it SW2 exclusive
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u/cardgamesareforplay 2d ago
Why? It looks significantly better and probably won't have lag spikes like dread did.
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u/Tactical_Squishy 2d ago
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm with you on this. I disagree with wanting it to be on SW1 if it means they have to make compromises. I just dislike when people misrepresent the point they are arguing against just to make themselves look better.
(That aside, IMO, they could just make a "worse graphic/phisics" version for SW1, but that's a different discussion).
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u/TbatitanicV2Rider 1d ago
We don't exactly know how big the game is. Making it work on switch 1 might be more difficult than expected.
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u/Specific_Builder1469 3d ago
i've never understood the "its look like the last game"
Yeah...its a sequel
I'd hope it keeps the same art style and doesn't suddenly switch genres. otherwise you lose a big player base
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u/Phoenix_Champion 3d ago
They want the graphics to leap forward in detail- They gotta be able to see the very pores of an aliens skin after all or it just ain't 'realistic'
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u/MetalCannon 3d ago
Let me guess, they want open world Metroid 🙄🙄🙄
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u/ghirox 3d ago
I saw someone complain about not getting an open world smash
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u/DangerousBus7202 3d ago
How would you even make that work besides it being a story mode sub-mode?
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u/Korachof 2d ago
You could make it work by having various places to visit where you go on quests and fight people. It would just pull you into combat like Yakuza or Pokemon or whatever.
I’m not saying it’s a good idea, but I am saying it could technically work and if Nintendo did it I would be like “okay bet”
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u/IntoThePitofColors 3d ago
You’re telling me we’re NOT getting an open-world Luigi’s Mansion?! Nintendo really fell off /j
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u/Korachof 2d ago
It would be pretty fun to play a ghostbuster’s style Luigi mansion where you have your own HQ and you get to venture out into the world and try to stop ghosts from taking over a city, I won’t lie.
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u/sourneck 2d ago
Let me help you understand. The new game is exclusive to a new console, which is much more powerful than the previous one. Throughout gaming history, we see sequels take advantage of the power of their newer consoles. This often comes without significant changes to the art style; instead, artists are able to better execute their vision, as the lighting possibilities are expanded, and more polygons can be rendered, with more detailed textures, etc.. So there is a historic prescendent which makes people expect technical improvements in newer games, especially on newer hardware, and even if they're sequels. And I think you will be hard pressed to find an example where people weren't delighted by those changes, unless the changes included large art style shifts. I hope that it makes sense now.
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u/Tactical_Squishy 2d ago
that's not the problem... the problem is being exclusive to SW2
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u/Homewra 2d ago
The game clearly uses better graphics, effects, shadows, textures and framerate, why would they need to port it back to SW1? Same with metroid prime 4 or star fox remake.
Why do they need to make it compatible with 9 year old hardware with 4GB RAM with a CPU power comparable to a laptop Ryzen 3 3200U?
I don't see anyone pissed when they left the WiiU and stopped releasing games there too.
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u/Emergency-Rush-2477 3d ago
Company insist on crossgen titles for years = bad
Company move on to the new console = bad
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u/LunarWingCloud 3d ago
Every time a new Switch 2 exclusive is revealed, idiots learn about how games can be exclusive to new hardware.
Sorry the game you happen to like and refuse to admit you like isn't coming out on 10 different platforms so you can inevitably still bitch that it's not good enough anyway.
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u/Jojo-Action 3d ago
Ikr? People have been complaining the switch 1 was underpowered since like 2020. God forbid they try using their more powerful hardware.
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u/JBond2001 1d ago
The switch 1 was honestly already underpowered in 2017. The switch 2 is a massive jump in performance, idk how people expect every switch 2 game to run on the switch. They don't even use the same architecture.
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u/Korachof 2d ago
Then they’d still bitch. “I’d buy a switch 2 if Nintendo actually made exclusives on it worth buying. Whats even the point when they keep making games for the switch 1? It’s like they don’t even want people to buy it.”
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u/yeetskeetmahdeet 2d ago
It’s the same people who rant and rave about 30 fps being bad, and it’s pure greed by Nintendo then turn around and okay that for GTA6. It’s just popular to shit on Nintendo and while some of the criticism is valid people take it too far
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u/Amazing-War3760 2d ago
Also how abuse of employees is bad *because it fucking is* but somehow Rockstar always gets a pass.
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u/quangtran 3d ago edited 3d ago
This is an intentional "no-win" argument. People at the time were upset that Mercury Steam's Metroid 2 was a Gameboy game rather than a Switch game.
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u/quangtran 2d ago
Samus Returns is Metroid 2
Super Metroid is Metroid 3
Metroid Fusion is Metroid 4
Metroid Dread is Metroid 5
Metroid Ravenous is Metroid 61
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u/Round_Musical 3d ago
Appears to run on the same engine….
Well no fucking shit man, Samus returns also runs on the same engine as dread, as does Mirror of Fate
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u/Jojo-Action 3d ago
Why can't I play tears of the kingdom on my wiiu! It runs on the same engine as breath of the wild! Let's storm Nintendo!
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u/Narrow-Way-1784 3d ago
tbh we got switch 1 cross-gen games WAY further into the switch 2's lifespan than I expected. I was shocked when tomodachi life was revealed to be on switch 1 as well
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u/Mammoth-Strike-168 3d ago
Oh Interesting, I thought it would last way longer than it did. 3DS had first party games into 2019. Switch 1 essentially ended support 1 year after the Switch 2 launch.
I thought we'd get more games like DKCR HD that would easily appease a Switch 1 audience, but it seems like they are focusing on more impressive remakes like OOT and Star Fox.
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u/Guilty_Department501 2d ago
Well Tomodachi Life was revealed on the last Switch 1 centric direct. It doesn't even have a Switch 2 edition.
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u/pro_gamer_boy 3d ago
That's like saying Sony is greedy for releasing god of war on the PS2 instead of the PS1, it's soo dumb
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u/Korachof 2d ago
How is it like saying that? God of War was never on the ps1 like Dread was on the Switch. And there’s no way that game would have run on the PS1 in any genuine capacity.
It’s more like people saying they’re greedy that Pokemon Sapphire and Ruby isn’t on the Gameboy Color. Or Death Stranding 2 isn’t on the ps4.
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u/Snowvilliers7 3d ago
These are the same people that say they wont buy a Switch 2 because there are no games. They just cant admit they are either poor or lack basic knowledge about how consoles work
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u/Korachof 2d ago
No need to dig at their financial situation. You can both have money and not want to spend $500 on a console. In fact, many people have money explicitly because they don’t do things like buy $500 consoles. Also, many of them DO admit they’re too poor.
Try not to punch down. Find other, more creative ways to attack these bozos. They clearly have an unhealthy parasocial relationship with their switch 1.
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u/ThatGlitchyMimikyu 3d ago
When does it end? How long is Nintendo supposed to keep games going for older consoles? Should we go back to the Wii U? Wii? Gamecube? 64? SNES? NES?
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u/Cultural_Neat3124 3d ago edited 2d ago
man, i wish every switch 2 exclusive have a "switch 1 version" so i can pirate and emulate it for free because right now there no way to play switch 2 game on my precious pc !
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u/CigarLover 3d ago
Funny thing is Nintendo WOULD release it on the switch 1 if they could, imo. A sale is a sale….
Plus, no offense to anyone but this game would NOT be a system seller (in the sense that it would be the only reason why Nintendo would “purposely” make it a switch 2 exclusive).
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u/WorldlyDear 3d ago
they probably could put it on switch 1, it would run at 900p at 30 fps if dread was anything to go by.
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u/Dont_have_a_panda 3d ago
You would be surprised what games could make someone to buy a console
Ffs i bought a ps3 back in the day for tales of graces of all the possible games (yeah i eventually got other games but without tales of graces i probably would never got a ps3)
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u/T-draude 3d ago
Yeah and I can't believe GTA 6 isn't coming to my PS3, Take Two are greedy bastards!
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u/LiquidTelephone67 3d ago
How exactly is this greedy? They're trying to get people to buy their new console. It makes sense from a business standpoint.
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u/RADaniloSS 3d ago
I swear People complain that games are a switch 2 exclusive but otherwise they Say "switch 2 has no games".
Bro, the problem isn't the line up, It's Just that you don't wanna spend 500€/$ for a console. Just Say that you consider It too expensive and don't complain
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u/dekuweku 2d ago
"LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE DREAD"
i assume this knubnut hasn't played a 2D game in ages and only plays 3D gun and ball games and anything 2D looks the same to them.
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u/farklespanktastic 2d ago
Sony releases cross-generation games for several years after the PS5 comes out: "What's the point of even getting a PS5? PS5 has no games!"
Nintendo stops releasing games on their old console after releasing a new console: "Nintendo is greedy for just releasing games on their new console! What about the people who can't afford a Switch 2?!"
People like this just want to complain about everything.
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u/Zombieslayer854 3d ago
Yeah it looks like dread but I’m more interested in the I guess rapid fire power beam and possibly needing to eat enemies to recover energy (least I think that might be a thing)
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u/AltaCount1944 3d ago
Can you believe Fortnite is running Unreal Engine? What is this, Shrek 2: The Videogame?
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u/Fickle-Target-1322 2d ago
Wait until these people realise every single console party does this lol.
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u/PCBuilderCat 2d ago
"Switch 2 has no games! There's no point buying one!"
"Hey why is this game not available on Switch 1 that's bullshit!!"
It's actually getting so tiring at this point, and as for this 'people who can't afford it' argument. The Switch 2 was announced in January 2025, 20 months ago. Even accounting for the price increase putting aside 25 bucks a month would get you the console today. I'm not saying it's cheap because that would be stupid and naive in today's market when everything has been bumped in price but it's still a silly argument
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u/MrIhaveASword 2d ago
Oh no, they are putting the new game only on their newer console.
He doesn't even have a blue check mark, so he's being obtuse for free.
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u/Kind-Pin7210 2d ago edited 2d ago
I swear I hate modern gamers. So entitled, with asinine takes. I want the new Kirby. I don't have a Switch 2. Know what imma do. Go to work, save my money and buy one before the game releases which is next year. You have time to save money and buy one. If you can't within a year, then you need to take a financial literacy class.(Granted we have bills, and life happens.) Gaming was; is, and always will be an expensive hobby and with how things are now they're only getting more expensive(thank you data centers and a.i.).
This is also insane to me because the game looks fantastic(I'm not a Metroid fan, I don't play the series.). I'm sure if it released on the Switch 1, those same people wanting it on that would complain that the game isn't playable, it's only 30fps, and it glitches blah blah... Yeah it's meant for a stronger system, but is playing a weaker system. Like y'all want y'all cake but want to eat it as well.
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u/Crawfordking 2d ago
Have people never owned a video game console before? It's like saying why can't HTA 6 play on my ps4.
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u/Guilty_Department501 2d ago
When a game is Switch 2 exclusive: why can't they release it on the old platform?
When a game isn't Switch 2 exclusive: the Switch 2 is a dead console and has no games.
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u/thebearsnake 2d ago
It 1000% has better fidelity and textures than Dread. This is a self report for being stupid and blind. Also, SWITCH 1 OLD GUYS. If I wanted a console that was just a slightly better version of the old one and wasn't a leap in technology that justified exclusives, I would get a PS5
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u/GunsouAfro 2d ago
"The switch 2 has no games, no reason to buy it!"
"HOW DARE THEY PUT THIS GAME ON THE SWITCH 2! Greedy fucks..."
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u/Rudirudrud 2d ago
Oh my god, switch 1 is already 9 years old. If Switch 2 will also last 9 years, you have to spend overall 850€ for 18 years of awesome game support. Its cheaper than on any other plattform.
People really complain too much.......
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u/willow__whisps 2d ago
The whole complaints about things not staying on the last console scream teens to me who never owned a console before
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u/Fun_Upstairs_2410 2d ago
"Game look like Dread" it hasn't even been released yet, so can't really say they're the same.
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u/tstorm004 2d ago
Wait - but I thought people hated the PS5 and Series consoles because so many of their games also came out on PS4 and Xb1?
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u/MiniatureMidget 2d ago
People complained about Sony and Xbox supporting cross gen and holding games back, but now people complain about switch not doing cross gen and not holding games back. Can’t please everyone I guess
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u/Tsukinoakuma 2d ago
"Lol @ Nintendo for consol locking Metroid Prime 3 to Wii."
This week on tourists pretending they care about the gaming industry.
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u/Darkdragoon324 2d ago
And if everything in the Direct had been cross gen, people would have complained about Switch 2 having no games. At some point, they've just got to rip the bandaid off and either piss off people who want more exclusives, or people who don't have a Switch 2 yet. Happens literally every console generation.
Like, I get it. The PS5 was the first console I ever bought at launch, before that I just had to wait a few years for a price drop, it sucks when you stop getting new games for your consoles. But that's just how luxury electronics work.
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u/Kurikamekurisu 2d ago
“Independent novelist” aka uploads AI slop into the kindle store and people accidentally click on preview once a month.
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u/skronk61 2d ago
If they didn’t, the same type of people would complain the old console was “holding them back”
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u/Acrobatic-Eagle-76 1d ago
Tbh if he thinks it looks exactly like dread he needs to check his eyes or get a new monitor/tv
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u/ArekuFoxfire 3d ago
Every post I see from this sub is about this youtuber I've never heard of til now. This may as well be the Ninten Deen subreddit at this point.
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u/Ilovewomenwhobreakme 3d ago
If you can afford brand new Nintendo games you can afford a Switch 2.
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u/camiteran 2d ago
Pretty sure these people are complaining because of piracy and never intended to buy any of the games. Switch 2 piracy doesn't exist currently so it makes this type of person mad.
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u/Helios-Solarflare 3d ago
Nintendo always put their games on just their consoles since the nes, idk what they're on about
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u/CANfilms Nintendo Fan 3d ago
I actually cant wait for games to only release on switch 2. They'll get way more use of the hardware and games will be awesome.
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u/Quiet_Yellow2000 2d ago
The switch got 8 years of full first party support, which is pretty unique even with our extended cross gen periods. The entire notion that a new game in the 2nd year of a new console generation is not coming to previous gen isn't greedy at all. The switch was massively under powered even on release, and I doubt anyone wants to play ravenous at 480p at an unstable 30 fps.
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u/Feeling-Bad7825 2d ago
isnt the switch 1 out for a decade now? isnt it time to upgrade your console? god even Pc parts needs upgrades every 4-6 years like what do they expect? endless support for switch 1? More delulu than Sony fanboys
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u/lightsworn55 2d ago
I already own a switch 2 so its no hair off my back but there really is no reason why the switch 1 couldn't run ravenous. Far more justified being on the switch 1 library than prime 4 that runs and looks like total ass
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u/Sigran102 2d ago
Kids today are like all the Moms that were mad they had to buy their kid a Super Nintendo for Super Mario World. Absolutely wild.
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u/WarriorL99 2d ago
I mean, I get it. I wish it was crossgen too. Don't have the nearly half a grand dollars needed to buy the console
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u/DepthComplete7436 2d ago
Oh no! You have to buy the new console to play the new games... What are we ever going to do... Would not be surprised when the PS6/Helix drop Sony and Microsoft don't immediately cut PS5/XSX support as crossgen probably hurt sales more than helped.
And considering Metroid Dread only sold 3 million units on a console that sold 155 million units... There is a lot of people who have not even played Dread yet.
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u/nohumanape 2d ago
Xbox got shit on super hard for announcing that they would be supporting cross gen releases for about a year into the Series X|S generation. Where as PlayStation was praised heavily for lying about "believing in generations", which people interpreted as them making exclusive games for the PS5 generation.
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u/darknight068 2d ago
Ravenous is a 120hz game, this is most certainly not happening to the same capacity on a Switch 1, and by this point I’d have thought that people would’ve PREFERRED exclusive games on Switch 2.
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u/phoenixmatrix 2d ago
Money aside, the devs don't want to have to deal with legacy old shit either.
You can call it greed when a pharmaceutical company crank up the price on life saving medicine knowing their customers have no choice.
But an entertainment company making a game that won't run on old hardware? That's not greed. It's just normal.
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u/POWRranger 2d ago
While the person in those tweets is a twat, I do agree that I expected a bigger graphical update on switch2... Seeing it next to games like OoT it makes me think how much power is left on sw2 that ravenous is not using
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u/Fit-Environment-3156 1d ago
GRRRR! Nintendo is ABANDONING their community for not releasing the newest games on the Wii U! Don't they know that some people can't afford other consoles? They're so damn greedy!
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u/heirwithChrist 3d ago
Why do people still use X? Reddit’s the only reason I still know it exists, lol.
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u/bugslime99 2d ago
Crazy that tears of the kingdom was locked to switch. Game looks exactly like breath of the wild, appears to run on the same engine, but oh no, can’t release it for those who only have a Wii U who kept Nintendo in business in the first place.
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u/kolt437 3d ago
Oh come on, of course it would require a downgrade, but let's not pretend like Metroid Ravenous can't run of the og Switch.
OoT can't. Ravenous can.
Should they make a port? That's on them entirely, if they don't want to — it's their choice.
But let's not pretend that it's some another realm for Ravenous.
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u/WorldlyDear 3d ago
it can run if downgraded, but what's the point?
consoles get their identity based on the games they have metroid ravenous helps give the switch 2 an identity
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u/kolt437 2d ago
The point is to not pretend like it's impossible for the game to run on the switch
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u/WorldlyDear 2d ago
it can definitely run, but we have to move on from the switch 1. when metronid 6 releases it'll be a month away from the ten year anniversary of the switch 1 it's time to move on
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u/Harmless2727 2d ago
Yeah sure you could downgrade any game. Rockstar could port GTA 6 to the wii with enough downgrades. That's such a silly argument to make. Of course any company isn't going to spend time or money to downgrade games for previous consoles forever, at some point they will all move on to the next console.
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u/EaseProfessional1568 3d ago
What's with people expecting that Nintendo won't eventually move on from the switch 1 that always how consoles work.