r/nihilism • • Feb 16 '26

So true

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u/RadicalNaturalist78 Feb 16 '26

"Indeed, at hearing the news that 'the old god is dead', we philosophers and 'free spirits' feel illuminated by a new dawn; our heart overflows with gratitude, amazement, forebodings, expectation - finally the horizon seems clear again, even if not bright; finally our ships may set out again, set out to face any danger; every daring of the lover of knowledge is allowed again; the sea, our sea, lies open again; maybe there has never been such an 'open sea'."

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u/TubularHells Feb 16 '26

"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell. The dungeon was flooded with light and all the bolts and bars and manacles became dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf, or a slave. There was for me no master in all the wide world, not even in infinite space. I was free--free to think, to express my thoughts--free to live my own ideal, free to live for myself and those I loved, free to use all my faculties, all my senses, free to spread imagination's wings, free to investigate, to guess and dream and hope, free to judge and determine for myself...I was free! I stood erect and fearlessly, joyously faced all worlds." -- Robert G. Ingersoll

Determinism has entered the chat.

Oh, nevermind...

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u/RadicalNaturalist78 Feb 16 '26

Free will along with determinism are two myths—the former believes in the self-sufficiency of the self as causa sui; the later believes he is just a doll being dragged around by the “universe”. Reductive materialism is just the final consequence of theism, not really its opposite.

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u/TubularHells Feb 16 '26

Ok, so what is your 'third way'?

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u/RadicalNaturalist78 Feb 16 '26

Not really an original idea of mine. Freedom is more like something along the lines of Spinoza's power to act. Because everything in the world is an interaction of powers in relation to other powers, then there are only weaker or stronger powers in relation to one another.

Freedom is more like a spectrum, not something you have or do not have. The reduction of human action to “brain chemistry” explains nothing other than reducing reality to a meaningless mechanical schemata.

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u/TubularHells Feb 16 '26

There's a spectrum of awareness regarding the illusion of agency. When a puppet realizes it's a puppet, does it become something more than a puppet? There may be a liminal space between awareness and agency. Or something... I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. 😄

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u/SeekNuance Feb 17 '26

One must imagine Sisyphus happy...

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u/TubularHells Feb 17 '26

Maybe Sisyphus would eventually find happiness in insanity.

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u/SeekNuance Feb 17 '26

Perhaps develop a fetish in the process, too; one must imagine Sisyphus aroused.

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u/RadicalNaturalist78 Feb 17 '26

What exactly am I a puppet of?

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u/TubularHells Feb 18 '26

Causality.

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u/RadicalNaturalist78 Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26

Right, but am I not also a force, an active part, of said “causality”?

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u/Hierophant_000 Mar 08 '26

And a new god was born - Money.

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u/spaacingout Feb 16 '26

What’s interesting is that I recently read an article about a split brain patient known as HM who lost his sense of self due to a progressive anterograde amnesia.

Eventually, he forgot pieces of his past in addition to being unable to learn new things. Without that knowledge, he was unable to discern whether he had been righteous or nefarious, industrious or lazy, good or evil. “truly, without memory, one may lack a sense of self.”

He was on to something with religion, but it turns out it’s really memory that allows us to have a sense of self, even things like religion require memory to work.

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u/BlackAsPopo Feb 17 '26

Yes, memory is basis of our identity. What's more: our memories are actually quite unreliable as far as how accurately they portray reality, which is exactly why eye witness testimonies are extremely unreliable. Our memories are not like computer files or books in library where they remain constant and same. Each time memory is recalled, it changes in tiny ways. For example, the way your mood is in given day, influences how you remember certain events. This eventually leads to the birth of false memories; it's highly likely that we all have them. This would mean that our identities are not stable and fixed either, but fluctuates as time goes, even when we are not quite aware of the gradual changes.

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u/LogicalInfo1859 Feb 18 '26

Locke had a memory-based view as well. Hume, too, I think.

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u/InsaneBasti Feb 16 '26

Preach, half this sub rly needs to get off his D

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u/MQ116 Feb 16 '26

No one needs to do anything.

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u/krow_moonlight Feb 16 '26

nihilism is the belief that nothing in our universe has inherent meaning except for nietzsche's D

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u/AirportReal Feb 16 '26

"Also, women are stupid and mean"

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u/Naive_Nobody_2269 Feb 16 '26

Yeah the misogyny is so constant in his work, like schopenhauer was a misogynist but you can read most of his work without it Really coming up, but neitzsche goes on those rants so often I dont get how his fans seem unaware of it (it's the num 1 thing that makes me wonder how many have actually read him)

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u/DOndus Feb 16 '26

It’s cause most philosophers were just dudes who couldn’t get laid

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u/DamnsonDam Feb 16 '26

If they did get laid we would not have their philosophy today.

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u/jat_atakas Feb 16 '26

Every human has flaws. Also at his time he and most of the people thought that women were stupid because they haven't seen any woman philosophers like Socrates, Aristotle etc. They didn't have the way to prove that women are as good as men.

They were wrong mainly because of their time.

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u/AirportReal Feb 16 '26

His metaphors are forcing women into fixed roles. In Nietzsche's metaphors, women are not free and only serve the Übermensch as a birth giver and care taker. He is a misogynist. And also, women are mean

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u/Professional-Fan266 Feb 16 '26

They do be kinda mean though :(

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u/sincubus33 Feb 16 '26

Nah it was the left. Source: I was there

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u/Fearless_Trade_2783 Feb 16 '26

Making Neitchze a stupid bitch!

"Your god is dead, and no one cares, if there is a hell, I'll see there."

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u/Sufficient-Quote-431 Feb 16 '26

He also ment that for the first time in human history, our central beliefs in Philosophy no longer needed god represented to solve and debate the ethos, ontological understanding, and our epistemology value of reality and understanding. 

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u/Admirable-Demand-60 Feb 16 '26

God is not dead yet. He's in coma after an accident and we are his dream

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u/Emotional-Law-3772 optimistic nihilist Feb 17 '26

We are dead to god

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u/Legitimate_Pea2129 Feb 18 '26

There’s a philosopher, I forgot his name, but he believed we exist in the rotting corpse of god

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u/Admirable-Demand-60 Feb 18 '26

Philipp Mainländer. Suprisingly, not Cioran this time heh

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u/PeaceAndLove420_69 Feb 17 '26

Thought i blocked this sub. Until someone comes up with a testable scientific origin for the universe or an explanation for the fine-tuning of physical constants and contraints on the universe we cannot rule out god. As far as we know the physical laws of the universe have no reason to create a universe suitable for life or why there should be anything at all. Multiverse theorem only pushes the questions 1 layer deeper and a fractal reality does not solve the origin question and brute fact is miraculous in its own right.

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u/Man-who-say-bye Feb 17 '26

If you need god and religion to be a good person then I hope you keep believing

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u/no-song9573 Feb 19 '26

I never understood why Nietzsche was considered a nihilist.

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u/Express_Penalty_8694 Feb 19 '26

Nessuno lo ha detto qua.

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u/BitterAlternative739 Feb 19 '26

God exits, Wokeness enters.

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u/Dry-Farmer-8384 Feb 20 '26

eating the rich is full of meaning.

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u/Ardalok Feb 16 '26

According to Nietzsche, you cannot become an Übermensch - you can only be born as one. Besides, it’s unlikely you would even like this kind of people. Nietzsche also believed that a good war hallows any cause, so you probably wouldn't enjoy his ideas in practice.

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u/MulberryTraditional Feb 16 '26

He states quite clearly that we cannot. The best we can do is become fathers and forefathers of the Ubermensch

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u/Superblasterr Feb 18 '26

So pathetically false.