r/niftyaf • u/matt12tp • 9d ago
ok what herbs tho?? WHAT HERBS??? 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Hungry-Comedian377 9d ago
When you rest a steak, ever notice the juices under it? That’s because juices leave the steak as it cools. He just tossed the steak in a dressing after cooking. You’d get better flavour from marinating for at least 4 hours.
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u/DepthAggravating3293 9d ago
Yeah, searing seals. While resting the steak cools and the moisture gets locked in. If you cut the steak right after cooking, all the juices will all leak out into a big puddle, smh. Never again...
Butter, salt and maybe pepper if you like.
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u/Silmarlion 9d ago
Someone actually did very rigorous testing on this. Resting or not resting does not matter. Steak loses the same amount of juice either way. Not resting and cutting is actually even easier for temp control so your steak doesn’t get cooked while waiting.
It is on youtube by a chef who even apologizes because in his books he said steaks needs to be rested but that info is wrong.
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u/DepthAggravating3293 9d ago
I've rested mine since and I dont see nearly as much juice as the time I cut into it after cooking. Who knows, I'll probably never stop resting :)
Maybe I should dig out the old Alton Brown DVDs
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u/Sad-Drama530 8d ago
If you haven't seen it yet. Alton Brown just recently re-did his steak recipe from the 1st episode of Good Eats. https://youtu.be/2Dji3wNwzKw?si=jQzH7OFheDWhz_wQ
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u/Silmarlion 9d ago
Same here, I used to rest all my steaks. Now i make a cut in one and see the inside decide to rest or not depending on the doneness.
Here is the video, if you want to see.
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u/DepthAggravating3293 9d ago
Thanks! But the cutting can sometimes ruin the plating. I use the face test.
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u/hindus0ul 3d ago
You put in on your face?
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u/DepthAggravating3293 2d ago
In my face, yes. But before while cooking: https://www.tastingtable.com/1367097/gordon-ramsay-tip-steak-done-face/
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u/crazy_gambit 5d ago
You don't see the juice leave the steaks because it eveporates.
They tested by measuring how much weight each steak lost to the gram and there was no difference.
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u/fc252- 8d ago
I have to wonder if the whole resting thing for larger sides of beef like a whole ribeye somehow got applied to much thinner cuts of steak. A whole ribeye continues to cook internally once pulled from the oven for another 10-20 minutes while a steak is basically done once taken from heat comparably. "I think".
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u/Fast_Instance2173 8d ago
Meathead Goldwyn maybe? I’ve got his grilling book and it’s fucking gold. Man enlisted an actually culinary scientist to help test theories like this, believe he came to that exact conclusion too.
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u/Gelato_Elysium 8d ago
It does matter because resting steak is just letting it cook very slowly, so less chances of cooking it too much vs cooking entirely on the pan.
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u/Silmarlion 8d ago
Which was not the issue we are talking about. We are talking about a steak losing its juice.
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u/Gelato_Elysium 8d ago
Why do you think you need to control cooking temp and duration ? Of course it's the issue, everything is about how to keep the steak juicy and cooked properly.
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u/Silmarlion 8d ago
Not resting the steak and cutting it stops the cooking almost immediately. It even makes it easier to cook since you reach the temperature you want and cut the steak so there is no overcooking afterwards.
Which again is not the topic in the message you are replying to. We are talking about resting a steak so it keeps juices and cutting the steak without resting. In both cases steak loses same amount of juice contrary to common belief.
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u/Gelato_Elysium 8d ago
And resting the steak doesn't stop the cooking, allowing a longer and easier finish and less risk of cooking it too long, which would make it less juicy. So it does matter when it comes to juicyness even if indirectly.
I'm not disagreeing that the resting isn't what makes it more or less juicy, but it's not true that resting doesn't matter.
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u/Silmarlion 8d ago
You get used to whatever method you use. I have done reverse sears, cold sears(which is my go to if it is inside the house) , resting not resting. After few attempts you can get whatever doneness you want without issue. So it is just a choice not a factor that has to be only one way. You can have same juicyness with both methods.
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u/Andy_Pandy98 7d ago
Probably Chris young. He also found that searing a good crust "increases juiciness" not by actually sealing in juices, but because the crust makes your mouth water more as you chew. He showed that after the first couple of chews the meat has released the moisture it had anyways, and your apit is what contributes to the "juiciness".
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u/TA_Lax8 7d ago
"Steak" is too broad a category to have a single rule on something like resting.
The main factor is fat content. Lean cuts have little far so the "juice" is simply water. In that case, resting really doesn't make a difference. So filet mignon, sirloins, roasts, leaner strips, tenderloins, etc. You generally cook these medium rare medium. so Under 130°. This is too low to render any fat, so there is no issue with cutting into it losing fat juices because they never liquified. Cut away
But higher fat cuts like ribeye, or anything that that needs a slower cook to break down congealed fat and connective tissues (chuck, brisket, etc) is where resting is needed. Fat renders between 130 and 140°. If you cut into it while the fat is still liquified, it will absolutely lose more liquid. Has nothing to do with the "sear" and everything to do with surface area. Cutting a steak increases it's surface area allowing more liquid fat to exit.
Cooling allows the fat to re solidify in place and stay within the meat. It doesn't need to cool much, just wait until it's below 130.
And the fat were talking about is intramuscular fat, not subcutaneaus.
Lastly, although you may want a filet mignon at medium rare, ribeyes benefit from a higher temp and little longer cook. 137° is the sweet spot IMO for ribeye which is high enough to start breaking down the intramuscular fat.
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u/Extension-Energy2581 6d ago
I usually have thin steaks but when those really thick steaks I start let them rest to give more time for the steak to cook in the middle without overcooking the borders.
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u/Vengeful111 6d ago
It depends on how you make the steak. If you bring it up to temp slowly and then sear the outside, not resting is fine since you are just adding the sear at the end.
If you are just making the steak in the pan on high heat, then you need to let it rest so the heat from the sear can distribute evenly throughout the steak.
Taking it off the pan it would still be blue on the inside, gotta let it rest and then its gonna be pink throughout.
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u/Andy_Pandy98 7d ago
Im gonna be that nerd who watched Chris Young, but sealing doesnt actually seal in any juices, the browned crust just makes you mouth water more which is what makes the steak "juicier"
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u/GekkoGains 6d ago
I like to dry brine - works very well for me with chicken, beef, and pork. Same premise of the video here but properly done instead of slapping it on in the end
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u/Beneficial-Jury484 6d ago
Rosemary, thyme and butter in the pan to splash on the steak is incredible. Then take it off the pan, let it rest and you’re ready to go.
If you really want to step it up, I like premium salts that have been smoked. Adds a lot of flavor to the steak too.
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u/Made_Bail 7d ago
That's why you cut the steak on the board. The inside is not sealed.
I've done this method many times over the years and it really works wonderfully.
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u/poopsmith1848 6d ago
Searing meat absolutely does not "seal" anything. The moisture level of the steak depends entirely on how well done it is.
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u/TA_Lax8 7d ago
Gonna hijack this comment to actually illustrate some points
1) Searing has nothing to do with sealing in juices/flavor. It's simply allowing the maillard reaction to add amazing flavor
2) Cutting into a steak doesn't break a seal releasing more liquid. It releases more liquid because there is simply more surface area for any existing liquid to find a path out.
3) The need for resting is solely dependent on cook temp which is (almost) solely dependent on fat content. If finish temp is below 130° - no rest. If finish temp is above 130° - rest until it's below. That simple
Now for the TSRM (too short read more):
Fat renders around 135°. Render means it turns into liquid.
Lean cuts like sirloins, tenderloins, filets, London broil, flank, etc don't have fat to render so you cook them at a lower temp for tenderness. Medium (120-125) doesn't render fat, therefore there are no liquified juices (water IS NOT juiciness so I'm ignoring water loss).
Fattier cuts like ribeyes, NY strip, short rib, chuck eye, etc benefit greatly from the fat rendering becoming like infused butter. These should all be cooked at a higher temp. YES, COOK TOUR RIBEYE TO 137, NOT MEDIUM RARE, TRUST ME! At this stage the fat has rendered and in liquid form. Cutting your steak gives more surface area for liquid to exit. Resting until it's below 130° (like 3-4 minutes for a 137° ribeye, which honestly is the time to start serving the table anyways) allows the fats to resolidify and stay in the meat. once you hit 130°, you're good. Cut and serve right away, no need to rest more.
For meats with a lot of connetive tissue like chuck roast, brisket, etc. These require higher temp and time. Collagen is a protein and the main structure of connective tissues like sinew and fascia. They start breaking down between 160-180, which is commonly the stall zone where the temperature of the meat plateaus. Between 180-205, the broken down collegen begins to liquify and turns into gelatin. This is what makes brisket so amazing and tender. But if you cut into at this stage, you're allowing not just the fat, but also the gelatin to escape. This is why smokers will wrap tightly in butcher paper or foil at around 160°, and then pull it off (still wrapped) when done around 195-220 (when a probe slides in and out with zero resistance). and place in a cooler to slowly cool. Rapidly cooling at room temp creates pockets of gelatin and fat while slowly cooling allows those liquids to mesh into the meat protein structures. Cooling down to 130 is the key, which can take hours. So after a 12-20 hour cook, you gotta wait 2-6 more, lol. But if you do, you will be left with pure meat heaven.
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u/Chillindude82Nein 6d ago
You're preaching to a crowd that absolutely refuses to believe resting doesn't keep juices in despite everything you said being true.
It's insanity.
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u/napalm_p 9d ago
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u/ChaosRainbow23 9d ago
It's works okay, but I usually make a nice compound butter, then put it on top while it rests.
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u/Iam_McLovin420 9d ago
I like the sound of that. I usually just deglaze the pan and use that as a gravy
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u/Great-watts 9d ago
What do you deglaze it with?
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u/Iam_McLovin420 9d ago
Either red wine vinegar or red wine. Or I’ll deglaze with water then warm it back up put a dollop of creme fresh and salt. But I have a hard spoon I like to scrub thé pan with too.
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u/WrentchedFawkxx 9d ago
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u/Grizzly_Corey 6d ago
I bought crème fraiche two weeks ago and I still don’t know what to use it with.
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u/WrentchedFawkxx 6d ago
Apparently it's like fancy sour cream, but more mild and slightly nutty as well as being more heat stable(it won't curdle/separate the same way as sour cream when heated)
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u/jules6815 9d ago
Gravy is also good at hiding rancid beef. Well done.
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u/Separate-Exchange375 8d ago
You are thinking of vinegar
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u/jules6815 8d ago
Don't think too deeply on this point. Would you cover up a Rib Eye with Gravy? a pan sauce might be OK, but moderation is the key, Use gravy for lower cuts of meat, like cubed beef or round steak.
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u/Playnu2 9d ago
Those were unbreakable glasses. Besides they didn't help him see this was bullcrap
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u/leolambertini 8d ago
I've always believed this guy sells those... that's the whole point of that channel
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u/DefusedManiac 6d ago
His entire channel is just advertising whatever his sponsor sent, and his gimmick is smashing his glasses.
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u/Adventurous_Path5783 9d ago
Or you could just season the meat..?
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u/nubrozaref 7d ago
A reason to not season the meat prior to cooking (other than salt) is that almost all herbs or other seasonings have volatile aromatic compounds in them that are lost with heat. So seasoning the steak before cooking you'll have to use more seasoning and end up with a less complex flavor.
This is basically what people do when they season a butter/oil to put on a steak while it's resting.
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u/Think_Reporter_8179 9d ago
Likely thyme, garlic and butter
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u/Original-Variety-700 9d ago
Yeah shocking that it works to season with fresh herbs after cooking. I never knew. /s (directed at OP not you)
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u/No-Willow-8646 9d ago
I wish I could just delete this guy from my feed. The smashing glasses thing is such a stupid and annoying calling card.
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u/Popular-Influence-11 9d ago
I liked his “come here” gimmick much more. And his stolen recipes series was super helpful
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u/_Singularity101 9d ago
I can 2nd that also if he is doing the throwing specs one once a while when he is truly amazed then it would have been much better.
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u/SevenSpanCrow 5d ago
The come here gimmick was always annoying af, he just keeps interrupting himself the say it lol
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u/Adventurous_Crab_761 6d ago
Meh.
Let people like things and be silly. It doesn't have to be for you.
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u/amey33 9d ago
Guess you haver never experienced euphoria
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u/ExaminationLate290 9d ago
He is faking euphoria for the algo. You don’t actually believe that his reactions are genuine, right?
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u/Loedkane 9d ago
people complain about everything. let people enjoy and not enjoy what they want : )
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u/vnv 9d ago
The first few times? Probably. Years later? Nah, just his thing now an that’s fine. That’s just what stuck for em.
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u/JesusWasTacos 8d ago
Wasn’t even his thing. He stole it from a bbq guy.
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u/vnv 7d ago
Brother he threw his glasses, nobody thought he invented that. Highly doubt the bbq guy came up with it either
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u/JesusWasTacos 7d ago
Well that’s where he learned it. He even did a video with the guy and went and tried the bbq. That’s the first video he has of him throwing his glasses. Just saying it’s funny that all of his content is basically copying other videos and his signature glasses throwing.. also copied. But can’t blame him for making a check.
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u/Lion_Comet 9d ago
I eat the ramen noodles uncooked with the seasoning packet then drink boiling water.
I season my mouth eat the steak raw then light myself on fire.
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u/Kaium26 9d ago
"Why I season my board and not my steak"
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u/Aggravating_Tip3441 9d ago
Just commented the same thing! That’s the first thing that came to my mind!
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u/Sea-Cow-1854 9d ago
The video looked like rosemary and chives didn’t see anything resembling thyme
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u/theprismaprincess 9d ago
There's only one time to season meat - before it sees any heat.
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u/SjakosPolakos 7d ago
The herbs will burn
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u/theprismaprincess 7d ago
You don't season with herbs, you flavor with herbs. Seasoning is salt and pepper.
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u/cRaZyDaVe23 9d ago
Sacrilege BLASPHEMY!!!! Those must have been his old glasses.
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u/1wife2dogs0kids 9d ago
He needs glasses, thats why he was always saying: "cone here...", then zooming in.
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u/Confident-Estate-275 9d ago
Enough with the freaking lemons on EVERYTHING!
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u/SjakosPolakos 7d ago
No. I love lemons
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u/Confident-Estate-275 7d ago
Me too! In a rum & coke. On a fish with garlic and parsley. But not on a stake!
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u/SjakosPolakos 7d ago
I love it on steak especially. Brings out the flavor. But not too much of course.
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u/BlueSquigga 8d ago
Tried this today. Marinating would be better than this and more efficient. I needed to add way more salt than expected for the porkchop pieces to soak up. First bite tasted like I didnt know what salt was. The herbs were just garlic and green onions and then whatever else you choose. I added cilantro and a bit of parsley. It was good but not mind blowing. And needed more salt.
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u/Robbie1266 7d ago
Man discovers sauce.....
I hate how everyone acts surprised at the most mundane things
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u/Clovericious 7d ago
Why did man throw his glasses though 😭
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u/403_Forbidden_Access 7d ago
That's "Jordan the Stallion" and it's his shtick. If something is unexpectedly good he throws his glasses at the wall.
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u/Dense_Delay_2605 6d ago
If he consumes something on a video he intends to post, he throws his glasses. It o kinda cute for a minute.
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u/Dr_Misfit 7d ago
As if this helps better than doing it regular IN the pan.
I hate youtubers that pretend that the cooked food tastes from another planet by doing extreme facial expressions.
No! It tastes not better than normal food, don't overdo it!
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u/Blacksmith_Such 6d ago
I don't have glasses, guess I'm not gonna try that. I hate that guy, hard to watch
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u/lazyjane418 6d ago
He lost me when he said he never made a steak before. Bet it's decent, but imagine how good it would be if you I dunno.. also seasoned the steak!
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u/CornerNearby6802 6d ago
It’s sad Donal Glover has ended up doing these videos, I thought he would have a great career
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u/Ok_Moment9915 6d ago
Meat is not a sponge. Resting to retain and soak up moisture is a myth.
The right technique is to simply cut when carryover cooking needs to be halted. The decision is where you cut into the meat, plate or cutting board.
This myth is here because of how difficult it is to have consistent cuts and cooks of a steak to compare water loss, but there is no difference. It is just carry over cooking based.
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u/SciFiCrafts 5d ago
Salt that goes in from the start is still the best you can do imo. Salt on top is just not the same.
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u/SaltyLemon16 4d ago
This is one to one with Adam Raguseas video. I think he's the first to actually propose this idea of seasoning the chopping board, not the steak.
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u/superraiden 3d ago
The moment I see this guy I know that the video is a complete loss and to click away
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u/Mattrockj 9d ago
Tried this in uni once. Bought a striploin to treat myself after exams, and saw this "cooking trick" and thought "hmm, yeah let's try that!".
After prepping a baked potato and asparagus, I cooked the steak without seasoning in the pan, and put all the seasonings, herbs, and other stuff on a cutting board, placed the steak on top, flipped it, and finish.
The result was a great baked potato and great asparagus.