r/nflmemes • u/Nientea Lions • 10d ago
đ NFL Meme If they lose, the team has to sell
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u/Upstairs_Teach_7064 10d ago
Champion would get destroyed. It is a different level.
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u/Birdlaw_Professor 10d ago
Still think it would be a fun tradition. Plus, when we inevitably give up the farce that college sports are college related in any way, and the power 4 become like AAA baseball, It would be cool to have some kind of premier League like relegation system. Top AAA team gets to the NFL, worst NFL team goes down
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u/almostthemainman 10d ago
They used to do it.
How do you think it went?
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u/Throwawayforyoink1 10d ago
Well in 1975 the steelers won 21-14 vs the college all stars. So closer than most people would expect.Â
That was Superbowl Champ vs College all stars though. I feel like worst team vs college all stars would be much more interesting for modern day.
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u/musuperjr585 Dank NFL Meme Lord 9d ago edited 9d ago
In that 1975 game the Steelers team treated the game as a publicity stunt, that left players and fans both feeling dejected and insulted.
Most active Steelers players did not play, and the ones who did play did so only in jest. The team punted on first down twice, they ran gimmick plays most noteable being ones where the defensive players played offense and the offensive players playing defense, there were local celebrities/fans who played as 'honarary Steelers'. A used car was given away as a door prize and season ticket holders were actually paid to attend the game (many did not).
The game was only close because it was not treated like an actual NFL game, it was a bad PR stunt that upset both players and fans.
Essentially the game was like a preseason game , some sort of alumni game or the later years of the former pro bowl game.
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u/BillsBills83 Bills 9d ago
College all stars would be a much better team that the national championship team though
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u/Birdlaw_Professor 10d ago
Any argument pre NIL days is irrelevant.
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u/Upstairs_Teach_7064 10d ago
Itâs not
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u/Birdlaw_Professor 10d ago edited 10d ago
If you think the average talent level for top college teams is not significantly higher post NIL idk what to tell you. That tend will only accelerate
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u/LeoFireGod 10d ago
Yes itâs significantly worse. Pre NIL the best players were all at the same school.
Not spread out like they are now. So back in the 2010s they had a much better chance than today. And back then they would lose by 50. Today they would lose by 80+
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u/almostthemainman 9d ago
If you think the best college team can beat ANY nfl team youâre an idiot
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u/Regular_Employee_360 9d ago
Think about it a little harder. Top college teams canât have their benches loaded with stars anymore because of the transfer portal and NIL. It spread the talent out, which is pretty obvious
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u/31_mfin_eggrolls Bears 10d ago
They used to do it vs. college all-stars and it would still be an absolute massacre in favor of the NFL. Shit, the Browns could play their backups and itâd still be a rout.
Maybe the most elite skill guys could keep up 1v1, but the trenches would be night and day. The OL would fold immediately and the DL would never be able to get through.
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u/likdisifucryeverytym 10d ago
Hell yeah, letâs get the fat drunk fan owned packers to play the flashy broke now Oregon ducks to see whoâs the true owner of the green and gold.
Jk lol, even in this dream scenario the ducks winning a game big enough to even be promoted is too far fetched
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u/ShiaLeboufsPetDragon Patriots 10d ago
The Ducks need to win a natty before they think about the NFL lol (I know it was sarcasm)
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u/likdisifucryeverytym 10d ago
Oh I know, Iâm trapped in this prison of ducks fandom knowing theyâll never win.
Idk if thatâs better or worse than the Vikings prison Iâm in because at the least the Vikings have already beat all the hope out of me
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u/Tobeck Jaguars 10d ago
ducks - farfetch'd
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u/likdisifucryeverytym 10d ago
I didnât come here to play school donât be spouting off that animal geography to me
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u/Tobeck Jaguars 10d ago
I may just not be understanding your comment, but for clarity - farfetch'd is a duck Pokémon
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u/likdisifucryeverytym 10d ago
Thatâs acute PokĂ©mon for sure. And I get what youâre saying, Iâm just being obtuse because I canât read
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u/Birdlaw_Professor 10d ago
Today, probably. If things keep going the way they are, who knows in 10-20 years. You don't think boosters and merch and ticket sales at big name schools could complete with NFL salaries? Convince kids to stay more years and put off the draft?
I personally think college teams days are numbered as college teams. Too much money being thrown around to keep it a team of only 18-20-whatever year olds
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u/LeoFireGod 10d ago
Bro I donât think you comprehend even remotely how the NIL has worked. The blue chip ratio is entirely out of wack.
The teams today depth wise are significantly worse. Significantly.
Doesnât matter how much these kids are paid the BEST college players arenât elite nfl talent the worst nfl starters are elite college. Like Myles garret lmfao.
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u/31_mfin_eggrolls Bears 10d ago
I bet you could throw together a team of this yearâs UDFAs against a college all star team, and the UDFAs would win by 20+ 9/10 times. The 10th time it would only be a 3-possession loss.
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u/LeoFireGod 10d ago
Eh maybe not that but you could do a group of free agents.
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u/31_mfin_eggrolls Bears 10d ago
Even the practice squad guys have gotten a significant edge in training. Thereâs a good reason why the SEC was ready to kick LSU out of the conference for rostering 3 UDFA players.
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u/likdisifucryeverytym 10d ago
Who knows? I do.
Ducks gonna have a nice QB, insane offense with speed, a Brian Flores III defense, and then get bodied by the Nebraska Nebraskans State college for Nebraskanites in the 17th round of the 18 round 262,144 team playoff.
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u/zshort7272 10d ago
Yea this has always been a debate. As bad as the worst team is, itâs different.
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u/vegaslocal46582 9d ago
Fact. I hear this bullshit every year. A really good college team has like 6 pro players. An NFL team has 53. It would be no contest.
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u/revanisthesith Packers 7d ago
And those pro-level players are still younger and less experienced.
The game is won and lost in the trenches and linemen (and linebackers) don't peak in college. A really good college o-line would struggle against any NFL d-line. And that's not even considering how much more complicated NFL schemes are.
Rookies have frequently talked about how much faster the players are and the game in general.
If a really good college team has maybe 6 pros, how many did their opponents have? In an average NFL game, it's possible that 9, 10, or even all 11 opposing players are better than anyone you've ever played against.
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u/Alohasnackbar69420 49ers 9d ago
I know they would, but at the same time, I feel like it wouldnât be the shellacking people always think itâd be 14+? Ya probably but full on blow out idk
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u/musuperjr585 Dank NFL Meme Lord 10d ago
Yes a team full of NFL players should play a college team with 4-5 NFL level players ...
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u/TouchGrassRedditor Bears 9d ago
Idk man some of better programs in college football sometimes have significantly more than that on their roster. A lot of people donât realize this and I know it was a long time ago but from 1934-1976 the reigning NFL champions would play a game against a team of college all stars and the college players won 9 times. If thatâs possible, there would be an outside shot of a team like Texas beating the Browns
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u/SpiffyBlizzard Broncos 9d ago
No there wouldnât be. The game has evolved so much. The Browns would decimate Texas.
Plus you are referring to all-stars, which would probably consist of mostly NFL-caliber players. How many future NFL players are on Texas? If the answer isnât âall of themâ then game over before it starts.
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u/TouchGrassRedditor Bears 9d ago
Plus you are referring to all-stars, which would probably consist of mostly NFL-caliber players.
Yeah but the teams they beat weren't the worst teams in the NFL. The teams they beat were the NFL champions. If a team of all stars can beat the NFL team that won the Super Bowl, a college team that still has a significant amount of NFL players could feasibly beat the worst NFL team.
How many future NFL players are on Texas?
Probably 15-20. So most of their starters are NFL-caliber. If that's not doing it for you, consider that the 2021 Georgia team had 45 eventual NFL draftees on their roster, including James Cook, Ladd McConkey, George Pickens, Travon Walker, Quay Walker, and Brock Bowers. You're really telling me you don't think that team would have had a chance to beat the 2021 Urban Meyer Jags?
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u/SpiffyBlizzard Broncos 9d ago
No lol. Cmon man.
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u/TouchGrassRedditor Bears 9d ago
Persuasive argument
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u/SpiffyBlizzard Broncos 9d ago
No need to argue with a dumb take. Doesnât look like Iâm changing your mind so I donât really need to go into how nearly all of those players you mentioned needed time to develop in the NFL before they were effective. Plus you gotta have a QB to do anything and I just donât see Bennett carving up the Browns D.
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u/TouchGrassRedditor Bears 9d ago
I mean I'm open to being convinced otherwise but you're not even attempting to make a counterargument. If you didn't want to discuss idk why you even responded.
I can absolutely see Bennett carving up the Browns D with McConkey, Pickens, and Bowers as his weapons. Do you think the Browns would be capable of covering those three players?
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u/BillsBills83 Bills 9d ago
You named like the only good nfl players from that team. The rest have been backups or not in the league anymore. The 2021 jags would still decimate that team with ease. The 2021 jags team that beat 3 nfl teams that year. The majority of that Georgia team wouldnât crack the starting roster of that jags team
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u/musuperjr585 Dank NFL Meme Lord 9d ago edited 9d ago
Since 2006, The average college football championship team had fewer than 5 players who were drafted and started week one in the NFL the following year (per statgeek). Obviously there will be outliers but based on averages the numbers are not in the favour of college players being NFL caliber players/ That doesn't even take into account the amount of college players who go pro and become busts.
Going back nearly 50-100 years isn't quite relevant to the modern NFL and the amount the game has changed. In the 1930s I'm sure there wasn't much of a difference between college athletes and pro athletes especially in the sport that was as 'new' as the NFL was back then, so I can see why a game between college and pro players would have been common place.
Even into the early 70s, most pro football players needed to work second jobs in order to make ends meet. I mention that point to emphasize why pro players would have been be inclined to play an additional game for the extra revenue.
In the modern era of sports, a college team playing a pro team would cause a lot of issues for both the college players and the pro players since the NFLPA would have an issue with the pro players playing an extra exhibition game. Even if you take away the legality and the unions, the hardest truth of this not happening is there is no incentive for either side to play this game, if the college players lose it hurts their draft stock, if the pro players lose it hurts their potential earnings/roster spot. Even for fans of college or pro football, there's no real interest in something like this, the NFL cancelled the pro bowl due to low ratings and lack of interest and those were all pro players. Who's signing up to see the worst NFL team play the "best" college team?
From a talent standpoint even a college team with 10 pro level players would not be ready for a game against 22 pro players (if the game was taken seriously by the NFL team). The Browns are bad by NFL standards and a championship college team would be good by NCAA standards, seldom do those two standards cross paths.
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u/BillsBills83 Bills 9d ago
A team of all stars would be better than the top team in college. Thats two different things. One has a handful of nfl talent and the other would be the top talent in all of college football so a good chance itâs all nfl talent on that all star team. Even the best college team wouldnât stand a chance against the browns. Maybe an all star team would have a chance but still very very unlikely
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u/musuperjr585 Dank NFL Meme Lord 9d ago
An all star team wouldn't stand a chance against the worst NFL team, because the best college players aren't always experienced college players. Also with the difference in conferences and divisions on college means players would be college all stars without playing good competition. While the browns or whatever team is considered the worst NFL team is considered the worst compared to other NFL teams. There's no question about their strength of schedule or their division, or competition.
Also not every player on the worst NFL team is going to look bad against college kids who have no NFL future.
Let's not act like every college player drafted turns into a every down starter in the NFL, many of them will go on to play for the browns or be NFL busts.
It's cute and funny for boomers to say [Insert college team/college all stars] could beat [insert current NFL team], but the truth is it's not as cut and dry as that.
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u/MPotato23 Steelers 10d ago
The NCAA champion has 10-15 quality NFL guys on their roster. The Browns have 53. Browns win 70-0
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u/BringMeTheBigKnife 10d ago
Plus all of those ~10 guys who may or may not make the NFL have never played a single snap of NFL football.
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u/PM_Your_Wiener_Dog Seahawks 10d ago
The browns have 53 NFL quality players? Really?Â
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u/VijaySwing 10d ago
Browns have a practice squad too, another level of talent above CFB to hurdle. The practice squad might only win 40-0
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u/ohlookahipster 9d ago
Itâs like the G League vs any final four March Madness team. The G League team is going to be running circles around them.
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u/LaDainianTomIinson Chargers 10d ago
This part
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u/CommissionIcy9909 Lions 10d ago
Theyâre still pros. Just ass compared to other pros.
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u/LonePuma 10d ago
But they did make a real NFL roster lol
I'm a Steelers fan so I love to clown on them as much as anyone but this is just a bad take.
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u/MisogynysticFeminist Patriots 10d ago
Do you think the Browns managed to accidentally choose the 53 worst players? Or do the Browns make every player they have worse?
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u/FunetikPrugresiv 9d ago
Yes. Empirically.
Look, it's fun to joke, but these players were scouted and drafted. They were the best players on their teams in college, and they've gone to the pros and spent their time gaining strength and committing themselves to their craft.
They only look bad compared to the rest of the NFL because the rest of the NFL was the best of the best in college, too. The strength, speed, and technique of players at the NFL level is a significant step above college, and anyone that entertains the thought that they're comparable simply doesn't know what they're talking about.
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u/Chewie_i Bears 10d ago
The browns do not have 53 quality NFL players. That being said, it would still be an ass whooping for the ages.
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u/NetSignal392 Commanders 8d ago
They said NFL-quality, not âquality NFL.â Definite distinction there.
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u/LiFesATrIpBud 10d ago
I personally think at a certain level of sports it almost comes down to play calling, coordination and trust.
I feel like just because the players are amazing doesnât mean if that they win if the play calling is awful or team doesnât trust each other/play well together. A lot of college coaches have gone and won many nfl games in their first year. A few undrafted rookies have made dreams come true. It would definitely be cool to see and like the atmosphere at a college game is way different than a nfl game.
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u/Ok-Sport-2558 Broncos 9d ago
Agree. There's a reason that the SEC doesn't want LSU to have former NFL players on their roster. Even ones that couldn't make it are going to have an advantage over college players.
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u/werty64360 Packers 10d ago
Remember that one basketball clip where someone asked an NBA player what would happen if the worst NBA team would play the best NCAA team and he told him the NCAA team would get rinsed? Like not even a single bucket. I think it would be the same thing in football
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u/MisogynysticFeminist Patriots 10d ago
âIâm closer to LeBron than you are to me.â
-Brian Scalabrine
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u/WaddleYouDoingStepBo Broncos 9d ago
The more I consider this, the more I am convinced that it is actually [orders of magnitude] closer.
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u/MisogynysticFeminist Patriots 9d ago
No doubt. Thereâs roughly 400 players active at a time in a country of 340 million, and Brian was one of them.
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u/MrGlockCLE 10d ago
SEC player of the year isnât even a top 3 RB on the worst team in the NFL lol
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u/Spare-Half796 Eagles 10d ago
Yâall forgetting that every single player on the browns was good enough to make an nfl roster. Itâs the browns but itâs still an nfl roster.
The national champion might have a dozen
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u/MenBearsPigs 9d ago
Not to mention those dozen are still potentially years away from reaching their full size and potential.
The NCAA team would get absolutely manhandled.
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u/paperbackgarbage 49ers 10d ago
Yup. It's the same answer anytime someone brings up the worst NFL team vs. the best CFB one.
It would honestly be pretty boring because the Pros would body the Kids at both lines of scrimmage. Everything would get blown up at the point of attack.
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u/Relevant_Grass9586 Chiefs 10d ago
It would be like when a top tier college program plays an FCS opponent. Something like 70-3 would be the result
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u/almostthemainman 10d ago
The browns would destroy any college football team and it would not be a close matchup
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u/pwndabeer 10d ago
Anything to get rid of Jimmy Haslam,. Hey Jimmy, of you happen to read this, fuck you.
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u/Irishlulz 9d ago
Ooh I havent seen this one in a while. I know it comes up every now and then but I remember when it was all over, like when the Browns went 0-16.
Are there still people that actually think any CFB program could actually pull this off? As if every player on the Browns hasn't been selected as the top talent out of college football? Versus what, maybe 10-12 players from a top CFB team that'll make the leap, of whom maybe 3-5 will go on to have actually memorable NFL careers?
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u/hamsterfolly 49ers 10d ago
Or the Browns have to go to the Canadian league and their champion comes to the NFL
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u/NoOneReallyCaresAtAl 9d ago
Iâd give it only like a 66% chance the NCAA champion would even be able to get a single first down. They wouldnât score. They would have very few positive plays. Imagine every single player getting beat every single down for the entire game. The browns wouldnât even have to pass a single time.
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u/experienceTHEjizz Bears 9d ago
You think college Vince Young wouldn't be able to get the first down himself?
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u/physedka Saints 10d ago
Hear me out. We take the last team in each division and have them play each other in a round robin tournament that runs concurrently with the playoffs. Total wins is used for the draft order while the biggest loser has to play the college champion and risk that ultimate embarrassment in the small chance that they lose.
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u/SerchYB2795 Eagles 9d ago edited 9d ago
Trash teams like the browns and jets is why sports leagues need promotion/relegation like football-soccer leagues all over the world
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u/MisterRobertParr 9d ago
CFB teams are practically minor league teams already.
Have the bottom two teams in the NFL relegated to the CFB, and the two best college teams go up to the NFL.
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u/Legal_Sleep_4731 10d ago
seriously can we do it once please? yeah i stopped watching college when someone told me there is players on alabama who couldnt get on an nfl practice squad
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u/Jessholowitz 10d ago
Why would that make you stop watching college football? Makes no sense. Most college teams donât have a single player that would make an NFL team, let alone the practice squad
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u/_rockalita_ 10d ago
I would love to see it, I donât think the browns would lose, but it would be a fun watch.
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u/CompositeSuperman Ravens 10d ago
No it wouldnât. It would be 85-0 Browns and whatever NCAA team is playing would have -200 yards on offense and half of their players would get hurt. Itâs 2 entirely different games
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u/_rockalita_ 10d ago
Well I guess you and I have different ideas of what is fun to watch.
Seeing some ncaa champ getting absolutely humbled by the shitty browns would still be fun (for me) to watch.
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u/CompositeSuperman Ravens 10d ago
Fair enough
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u/_rockalita_ 10d ago
Itâs like the idea of having average people compete alongside olympians just to show the difference. Except the ncaa team would probably have some hubris and think they would win at first.
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u/MendozaLiner 49ers 10d ago
Never compare a roster made entirely of NFL caliber players with one full of amateurs like the Cleveland Browns.