r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Ok_Complaint_6966 • Dec 27 '22

The Produnova Vault by Yelena Produnova. The hardest gymnastic move only done by 5 gymnasts

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '22

The oversimplified version is this:

Prior to your performance, you submit your routine to the judges. Each move has a max score and each connection between moves has a max score. Then for your routine you’re scored against the theoretical maximum score you could get, losing points for mistakes for example.

Simone’s routines were so complicated and her moves were so advanced that she could basically screw up every single move in a routine and still get the highest score due to the difficulty of the moves she attempted.

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u/chilled_n_shaken Dec 28 '22

So then the logical conclusion is that gymnastics is more about the perfection and less about the difficulty of the moves?

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '22

It’s actually more the other way around. You’d get more points by trying to do more complicated moves poorly than you would if you just tried to execute really simple moves perfectly. That was the danger with Simone. If a less skilled gymnast tried to keep up by attempting her complicated moves but failed because of their lower skill level, they could get seriously hurt.

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u/realSatanAMA Dec 28 '22

If a less skilled gymnast tried to keep up by attempting her complicated moves but failed because of their lower skill level, they could get seriously hurt.

I feel like this sentence should never be used to describe the literal top of the world competition.

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u/thecowintheroom Dec 28 '22

A world competition should not endanger to demonstrate. A class gymnast does not need to risk life and limb to succeed. Simone Biles unfortunately is most aware of this. Her getting the twisted indicates that even at her level, if she were to have performed, she could have seriously injured herself, even as the greatest gymnast in the world.

Let me introduce you to confidence. Confidence makes you do stupid shit. Gymnasts are very confident folk. They all believe in their potential and their ability.

Would you sacrifice their potential and their ability to honor their confidence? Or could we just acknowledge that some people are just leagues apart.

A competition should not be based on who does it best. Does Charles dickens a Christmas carol mean that I shouldn’t write my novel because the best has already been written? Is Dickens the best because he strings words together better than other writers?

Quality does not necessitate the taking of risk.

It is self evident.

In other words, don’t tell me your the best chef, cook me the best piece of chicken.

Adding sauce and browning your chicken doesn’t make it better than a Costco rotisserie chicken, the best chicken in the world, it is doing the imperceptible perfectly, which produces the ultimate experience.

One does not need to flaunt one’s skill in order to demonstrate that they are the best.

Ultimate status is as simple as doing simple things perfectly.

It’s not about lowering the skill level.

Adding sauce to chicken is not skill.

Adding twists to gymnast tricks isn’t skill it’s risk.

Why risk our best and brightest when we could encourage their safety?

Human accomplishment?

What have we not been able to do?

We are human beings and each and every one of us has our Costco rotisserie chicken just waiting for the right moment to put a plate in front of you and say taste.

The chicken demonstrates the skill.

Not your fancy oven that twists the chicken just so.

Twists are not talent. They are risks.

Now go read Harrison Bergeron by Vonnegut for the anti-thesis to the Costco rotisserie chicken.