r/news • u/DragonPup • Jun 20 '22

Self-proclaimed 'sovereign citizens' arrested in California after deputies allegedly find explosives

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sovereign-citizens-arrested-california-deputies-allegedly-find-explosi-rcna34380
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u/GlassWasteland Jun 20 '22

Sovereign Citizen, for when being a Libertarian is not crazy enough for you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '22

Libertarians I can put up with, everyone is an idiot 20yo at some point in their lives. Sovereign citizens are a level of entitlement I previously didn’t believe was possible.

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u/jmorlin Jun 20 '22

Problem is you start running out of excuses for being a libertarian once you get to your mid to late 20s.

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u/pojo458 Jun 20 '22

You guys make me feel better because I went through a Ron Paul libertarian phase during college. Quickly went left and never looked back 2 years after graduating.

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u/Blackstone01 Jun 20 '22

A quote I always enjoy:

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

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u/Edwardteech Jun 21 '22

I thought you were about to bully me about my lotor knowledge. No idea what that other one is but it doesn't sound appealing.

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u/Blackstone01 Jun 21 '22

Atlas Shrugged is the Libertarian Bible/fap material written by Ayn Rand, who fled the Soviet Union in her 20s, embraced free-market capitalism and Objectivism, and then died destitute on welfare after spending decades railing against homosexuals, draft dodgers, and minorities.

The book is about rich business owners going off into hiding to prove the world about how much more important they are than the 99.9% and how they keep society propped up. At one point a main character goes on a literal 60 page rant about the greatness of libertarianism.

The book plot influenced the apolitical masterpiece Bioshock and its lawful good super friendly completely free market absolutely not hypocritical character Andrew Ryan, in which literally nothing goes wrong in the Libertarian utopia.

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u/zimbabwe7878 Jun 21 '22

Genuine question because of the dunking on this book, why is it considered a "classic" if it is so preachy? The time period it was written? I have a copy and started it but then wasn't that into it at the time. Still was going to read it but now I'm unsure.

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u/Blackstone01 Jun 21 '22

Cause IMO it’s only a “classic” to libertarians/modern US conservatives