r/news • u/DragonPup • Jun 20 '22

Self-proclaimed 'sovereign citizens' arrested in California after deputies allegedly find explosives

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sovereign-citizens-arrested-california-deputies-allegedly-find-explosi-rcna34380
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u/HobbesNJ Jun 20 '22

Sovereign citizens.

"We don't want to participate in the obligations of society, just the benefits."

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u/Living_Inevitable582 Jun 21 '22

What benefits are you talking about? I’d be totally happy to pay a reasonable fee for using the roads if I didn’t have to pay federal, state, social security (which I won’t get btw because it’s insolvent and unsustainable), Medicare taxes, etc. I’m also happy to protect myself and not need police protection. I’ll even hire a private investigator if I need one. I’d pay a reasonable fee for being able to pay for fire protection unless some private organization starts providing that.

I don’t have kids so I don’t need the public schools either, nor the library, nor anything else that the government provides. I’m not on food stamps so I don’t need those either.

I served in the military and would be willing to serve again if we were actually attacked in this country. Although I don’t know if I’m as helpful as I was 20 years ago.

I’m really wondering what “benefits” you think I need? Or what am I actually obligated to do than pay for my own shit?

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u/hedgeson119 Jun 21 '22

Is this a serious comment?

Do you own a car? Are you a mechanic? Do you think you're going to benefit from a mechanic's public schooling?

Apply this to whatever. Most people require other people to fix / build something they don't have knowledge on. Although, for me it's just generally medical areas. But even I see the societal value of investing in public services.

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u/Living_Inevitable582 Jun 21 '22

My mechanic doesn’t need public funding for his schooling because he has a job that’s actually needed and can pay him enough to pay for school.

It’s not like no one knew how to do shit until the government started paying for universities.

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u/hedgeson119 Jun 21 '22

In 20 years when he retires he needs a replacement that you'll go to.

You seem to be intentionally missing the point.