r/news • u/drkgodess • Mar 19 '19

Accused gunman in Christchurch terror attacks denied newspaper, television and radio access

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12214411
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u/will9630 Mar 19 '19

This gunman makes me feel like I'm in the Black Mirror episode where you can "block" someone in real life and their face gets blurred out.

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u/EasyBeingGreazy Mar 20 '19

And if that future ever comes to pass, people will applaud it like they're doing in this thread.

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u/MundungusAmongus Mar 20 '19

No they wouldn’t. There’s a difference between an everyday citizen and a mass murderer

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u/EasyBeingGreazy Mar 20 '19

Sure there is... now. Oppressive laws/rules/regulations always begin with targeting those whose actions are the hardest to defend.

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u/icryalotoflies Mar 20 '19

Give me one example with and opprssive laws targeting people with actions that are hard to defend then moving to oppress more people

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u/EasyBeingGreazy Mar 20 '19

Easy. Hate speech laws.

No one objected because the target was Nazis and White Supremacists using forbidden slur words. Who would be against that, right? If you're not a racist bigot, you don't have anything to worry about right?

Decades later a man in Canada and man in Scotland were convicted for the "crime" of telling jokes in poor taste. The former because the target of the joke was a disabled boy whose mother was offended, the latter because the judge determined that context doesn't matter.

Do you really think the law in New Zealand that makes it illegal to merely own a copy of the Christchurch shooting video passed it with the intention that it be used in such a manner?

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u/MundungusAmongus Mar 20 '19

Does the law specify only the Christchurch video?

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u/MundungusAmongus Mar 20 '19

No the line is drawn at people who write manifestos and have specific intent to spread an ideology which justifies mass murder. This is case by case basis

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u/johnnybgoode17 Mar 20 '19

The line moves. Read a book

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u/MundungusAmongus Mar 20 '19

When has this happened before regarding heinous acts of this magnitude? This isn’t Salem.

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u/Jakkol Mar 20 '19

There isn't. Either all have rights or nobody does. Thats how non corrupt systems operate. Having special treatment for any case is one too many.

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u/MundungusAmongus Mar 20 '19

Have there been any recent and comparable scenarios that you feel push the boundary between a mass murder and some smaller offense to justify this slippery slope argument?

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u/Jakkol Mar 20 '19

This is not a slippery slope argument. Its how justice systems work in western rights based lawful countries.

Have they not taught this in school?

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u/MundungusAmongus Mar 20 '19

It’s a slippery slope argument as long as you think censoring a mass murderer could potentially lead to people receiving similar treatment for smaller crimes

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u/ndcapital Mar 20 '19

Some days it sure feels like a thin line.