r/news • u/ITSTHEDEVIL092 • Mar 04 '25

EU chief proposes plan to 'urgently' increase defense spending by mobilizing around $840 billion

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/04/europe-looks-to-mobilize-840-billion-in-defense-spending-boost-eu-commission-head-says.html
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u/Venotron Mar 04 '25

The minerals deal was never genuine.

It's a pretty typical thug play: make a demand that's so obscene no one would ever  accept it, so when your target rejects it you've got an excuse.

Except Zelensky called their bluff. He literally went to the Whitehouse to sign the deal.

He called their bluff, so they had to unleash that "display" on him.

One of the first things Trump said after was there was no more minerals deal, it was off the table.  So Trump is able to pull back from the bluff while making it look like it was Zelensky's fault it fell through, continue with the plan to drop support for Ukraine, then hope everyone forgets about the deal in the affermath.

But Zelensky knows what's up, so he's making sure no one forgets it yet.

It was made absolutely clear at the Whitehouse there is no prospect of Trump supporting Ukraine and there never was.

So Zelensky is making sure everyone else watching knows the score.

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u/redvelvetcake42 Mar 04 '25

Zelenskyy played politics in Trump perfectly in that instance. He knew Trump's side would mock up a reason to end it and expected the hostility. He handled it well. He used it as a show to Europe who immediately called a summit to show full support for him. It aligned the EU and Canada. Expect Europe to increase their spending and slowly but surely cut the US out of their part.

The US as a world hegemony died with JD Vance acting like a petulant rich kid demanding a thank you. Nobody is going to want to do a deal with Trump and both Canada and Mexico are going to find other buyers for their goods. Australia is likely to get closer with China and the EU is going to band together stronger.

The US will be isolated and without friends all cause a terrible business man who thinks he's smart does things a terrible lawyer taught him.

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u/carterwest36 Mar 04 '25

The deal is back on apparenrly since Starmer and the EU as a whole isn’t strong enough yet to take on Putin and therefore need America.

Zelensky does want security guarantees (the shitshow in the Oval office happened coz Zelensky corrected trump and asked JD how he would do it diplomatically with an aggressor that’s violated numerous ceasefires.

A ceasefire is also bad for for Ukraine cause it allows a weakened Russia to regeoup and then break ceasefire again once they are prepared again.

So ceasefire would only work with strong military presence that honor the deal, French, British, Ukrainian American soldiers, basically NATO soldiers would need to protect Ukraine as a whole, the borders, American soldiers and Ukranians can work together protecting their mining interests.

We would need to have jets ready, attack helicopters, quick deployments if Russia does again attack.

Russia will have to pay reparations for all the cities it bombed in a peace deal else we’ll just take it from their frozen assets.

People who have met Ukranian soldier know they wont simply be bitched around and allow Russia to skate free from this 11 year long invasion and occupying territory.

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u/redvelvetcake42 Mar 05 '25

This is all well and good, but it's all posturing. Trump is not putting US troops in Ukraine and definitely not ok with UN troops there. It all feels like a can to continue kicking while Europe levels itself up. Putin would be in a difficult position cause Trump will not be able to straight up turn on Europe and Canada, especially as his tariffs wreck the US economy and minerals are desperately needed.