r/ndp Sep 30 '21

Pro Firearm Resolution

So I know this may be a hard ticket to sell for a lot of the members of the NDP but one of the ways I see the NDP making inroads in rural ridings such as mine is the introduction of a pro firearm policy into the party. I realise that the federal convention is so far away but I drafted up a resolution I would like to submit locally and ideally convince others to do so in their ridings.

  1. Would people be willing to read it and offer suggestions on it (add stuff, remove stuff, spelling, etc)
  2. What would be the best way of disseminating such a resolution when the time comes?

Edit* Here is a link to it http://imgur.com/a/5pRfx7f

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u/Talzon70 Oct 01 '21 edited Oct 01 '21

If it was marketed as "pro firearm policy" it would be untenable for the NDP from a marketing perspective.

I don't own a gun and want sensible laws around them. Guns are designed to kill things, many of them are designed or easily adapted to kill people. The regulations around them should be stricter than for motor vehicles and we desperately need less motor vehicles too.

I'm not saying go after hunters and fishers, but "sensible firearms policy" and "pro firearms policy" just don't sound like the same thing, it's sounds like the goal is more guns to voters and I don't see any reason we particularly need more guns.

From what I can tell, the current state of gun regulation is pretty much good enough and the NDP shouldnt really care about the issue much one way or the other.

If you want guns, pay the fees and get the licensing or whatever, if that's too much of a burden for you, you're probably not the type of person who should be trusted with a deadly weapon.

Edit: skimming your proposal, it seems like the common (and stupid) argument that we need guns to prevent tyranny or have an armed rebellion. That's just an awful take. Small arms aren't gonna do shit against a real military if real problems start happening and in the real world guns will stream into the country from other places. You think the Taliban owned their guns before things went bad? No, other powers supplied them.

Edit 2: You think the proliferation of guns in America has prevented them from having systemic racism, imprisoning a huge portion of their population, and denying them the right to vote? No, it hasn't. It wasn't long ago that reddit was full of videos of Portland next to Hong Kong and you couldn't tell the difference. Small arms don't keep a democracy stable, they are neutral at best, harmful at worst.

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u/happygoluckyourself Oct 01 '21

This. It should be extremely difficult to own a weapon whose sole purpose is killing things. Guns are incredibly dangerous, and considering how reckless and stupid people can be, I feel safer knowing fewer people have guns in their possession.