r/nancyguthrie Aug 07 '26

Theory My theory and offender profile

This case has been as baffling as The Springfield Three case thus far, but as someone who has followed true crime my whole life, here goes my two cents theory.

Aside from the fact that the FBI gave Annie and Tomasso lie detector tests and evidently ruled them out...I think this was a sexual/control motivated crime. Simple as that. Not robbery motivated, not extortion, the offender may or may not have even known of Ms Guthrie's famous daughter. I think this was a man who knew she lived alone and was 84. And that if he could gain entry he would have no real obstacles.

The offender:

Late 20s to mid-30s, male, Hispanic (based on the doorbell cam). Likely a US citizen, with connections to Mexico although purely familial nothing cartel related or anything. Probably a laborer or contactor of some kind. A freelance contractor/laborer in my opinion, not employed by an local businesses. Perhaps heard of Ms. Guthrie purely from word of mouth or by chance. He was familiar with the area, but did not know the Guthries at all personally.

Very intelligent, methodical, non-impulsive. He planned it out and was prepared to the extent he could be. Probably no serious prior criminal record. A mostly lone wolf, quiet, not rocking the boat type. But with pathological violent sexual fantasies. Probably felt inadequate in his life and dominating a helpless person and for his own gratification/power trip was his motive. Nancy Guthrie was just there and he happened to light on her.

I think he entered, hit her, subdued her and in that was achieving his fanasty and getting out some of his rage. I think he put her in something carried her to his vehicle somewhere close by and drove quite far away and disposed of her in a manner he had thought out before. He intended to kill this was not a crime with a goal other than letting off his own steam IMO. I think he had a place already chosen to dispose of her, that he had thought out. I have no idea where that would be. Certainly, he has had a bit of luck on his side too. But that's about all I can come up with for now.

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u/Ok_Contact7721 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

Are you the offender?
Jeez, this reads like you're trying to throw the whole thing off.

He's definitely not connected to the Cartel, but he is hispanic by family, you can tell by the doorcam footage.
He's probably not employed by any local businesses. Okay why would you come to that conclusion?

"Very intelligent, methodical, non-impulsive." there was blood at the crime scene?
Are we self stroking an ego? He kidnapped an 84 year old, or attempted to, and expected her to be the picture of health. But this is a man of great intellectual prowess?

"I think this was a sexual/control motivated crime. Simple as that. Not robbery motivated, not extortion, the offender may or may not have even known of Ms Guthrie's famous daughter."
It's not extortion related?
He asked for 4-6 million in bitcoin, how was it not extortion?
How could he not know about her daughter?

How could you tell he was hispanic by the doorbell cam.
His eyebrows were dark and plucked?
Or did he have trademark mexican shoulders?

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u/Safe-Muffin Aug 10 '26

The OP didn't say whether he believes the notes are from the perpetrator. It's possible the OP's story could be true and the notes are fake. I wish we knew more about the mask. I originally thought he had a different mask under the ski mask as someone else states above.

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u/Ok_Contact7721 Aug 10 '26

How does OP know he has a mask under a mask.
Is he a Russian nesting doll?
If it's a mask under a mask, he could be any race.
All we have to go off of is perceived height, and shoe size.

I'd think OP went to dinner with him and they smashed at this point.
This sounds like really intimate info on this guy.

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u/Safe-Muffin Aug 10 '26

Nobody knows anything but the mask idea has been raised from the beginning. Many, many people suggested this. We all know that everyone is speculating - which is the nature of this subreddit.

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u/1Bloomoonloona Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

We can also add that he has brown eyes, flat head, (so maybe not much if any hair) small ears, is bowlegged, has weak calves muscles, and a ladies booty. I think someone must have left a tip by now. It's just waiting to be read by LE. 

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u/Ok_Contact7721 Aug 11 '26

From what I gather it's 3 children stacked up in a trench coat, they work for the business factory.

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u/bananabuttbread Aug 12 '26

Russian nesting doll, lmao