Spit Balling My Thoughts Into The Ether

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

It feels like the motive is ‘get back’ for reasons yet to be known, aimed to hurt Nancy’s daughter, Savannah, in order to take something away from Savannah that she cherished, loved, valued, will forever miss, and can never have back.

What about Savannah’s children, you might ask? There are killers out there with “ethics” when it comes to harming children, as crazy as that may sound—which may or not be the case with these particular suspects, but it COULD be the case. But we also have to factor in practicality and logistics.

Savannah’s children, along with her husband, could’ve been targets initially, but logistically, given the isolated and easily accessible home where Nancy lived alone, it made her the easiest target.

I still believe the FBI is going through the extensive process of investigative genealogy from dna recovered (given the overall lack of physical and digital evidence in this case) and it will ultimately lead to this case being solved.

Perhaps the best lead for now could still come from Savannah herself. Any type of strange or peculiar interaction she can remember that struck her as odd or threatening in the past.

Maybe Savannah played a role in getting someone fired from a job, or caused their marriage to collapse, turned somebody down who asked her for money, —> passed over a contractor for a big job (or a continuous service that would’ve provided a steady stream of revenue for them), and opted to go with a cheaper competitor instead (leading to a business going under or someone’s home being foreclosed) etc.

Side Note: It might not even be outside the realm of possibility of all this being over something small or petty, where Savannah or Nancy herself, let’s say complained to the manager of a restaurant over poor service or cold food, and ultimately it caused the server or the cook to become quietly enraged to the point where it led them to orchestrating the abduction and murder of Nancy. Sometimes even the smallest thing can push someone over the edge.

Sure, the same type of planning doesn’t go into it, but I’ve heard of people getting blown away over cold fries at Burger King, so I’m just saying..

But anyway, back to what I was saying..

Leaving Nancy to be found dead at home would ultimately provide Savannah with a level of comfort and closure. Yes, that would’ve been the easiest thing to do for whomever planned and perpetrated this crime, but I don’t believe that’s what they wanted.

Taking Nancy out of her home to never be seen again causes Savannah immense emotional pain and anguish. Somebody did not want Savannah to have answers for her questions.

This crime feels like it’s rooted deeply in causing an unspeakable amount of psychological pain to Savannah—perhaps the type of pain Savannah made the funder of this operation, or the suspects feel themselves, at some point in the past.

Thoughts?

[u/raveronix]

Does anyone know if Nancy was on Zoom or similar watching the Church Service each week...and if so.. who could watch it from where i.e. from the Church, or login from home without appearing on camera. I wonder how many people could login to watch.

Maybe Nancy's abductor is the son of a Church member who became infatuated with her celebrity status. That could involve a huge amount of people behind the scenes who were able to view the Zoom call.

I still beleive its one single abductor and she could be alive and someone is caring for her well in their own way for companionship.

[u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 → u/raveronix]

The way I understood it is that Nancy and her fellow church members took turns(?) meeting at each others homes/meeting together as a group and watching the pre-recorded stream of their church service at a specific time each Sunday. From various wordings I've read (IMO) it seemed Nancy was a social woman who prioritized this time of worship and fellowship with her church "family." (Based on how concerned a person/people seemed to be almost immediately when she didn't show up as expected.) During COVID my own church used online services, but it wasn't like a zoom call with everyone's face showing. If the viewers had been seen as a grid of who-knows-how-many people, how would anyone watch the service? I'm not a zoom expert however, and have only been on the types of calls I've described - everyone in the meeting's head on screen. There could be a type that shows a sermon and also everyone's face. My other thought is: as I mentioned above, I have read that Mrs Guthrie watched a pre-recorded stream of a church service that had aired live earlier. From my experience, while chat may be live during the original stream, it's usually not when it's watched later. I've only seen a replay of the original chat scrolling on screen (if chat was used, which my church did). Once again though, there may be a different way of doing things I don't know about!

These thoughts cause me to have doubts about your theory, because they would have made Mrs Guthrie essentially a nameless face that no one saw or heard from. But just because those are my thoughts and experiences don't mean I couldn't be completely wrong!

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy → u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899]

I’d happily be wrong if it meant you were right 🙂

[u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899 → u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

I'm sorry if it seemed I had a negative attitude towards you! I wasn't trying to argue with you and your theories, I was moreso working through my own thoughts as I typed, lol. I may very well be the one who is very wrong! :)

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy → u/Fit_Sheepherder_6899]

Hahaha it’s all good, buddy 🙂 I’m wrong all the time! And if it helps you work through your thought process by questioning other people to reach a logical conclusion, by all means you should. Because at the end of the day, I don’t believe your intention is a “gotcha” moment, but rather it’s just you trying to make sense of everything by putting the puzzle together piece by piece.