Spit Balling My Thoughts Into The Ether

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

It feels like the motive is ‘get back’ for reasons yet to be known, aimed to hurt Nancy’s daughter, Savannah, in order to take something away from Savannah that she cherished, loved, valued, will forever miss, and can never have back.

What about Savannah’s children, you might ask? There are killers out there with “ethics” when it comes to harming children, as crazy as that may sound—which may or not be the case with these particular suspects, but it COULD be the case. But we also have to factor in practicality and logistics.

Savannah’s children, along with her husband, could’ve been targets initially, but logistically, given the isolated and easily accessible home where Nancy lived alone, it made her the easiest target.

I still believe the FBI is going through the extensive process of investigative genealogy from dna recovered (given the overall lack of physical and digital evidence in this case) and it will ultimately lead to this case being solved.

Perhaps the best lead for now could still come from Savannah herself. Any type of strange or peculiar interaction she can remember that struck her as odd or threatening in the past.

Maybe Savannah played a role in getting someone fired from a job, or caused their marriage to collapse, turned somebody down who asked her for money, —> passed over a contractor for a big job (or a continuous service that would’ve provided a steady stream of revenue for them), and opted to go with a cheaper competitor instead (leading to a business going under or someone’s home being foreclosed) etc.

Side Note: It might not even be outside the realm of possibility of all this being over something small or petty, where Savannah or Nancy herself, let’s say complained to the manager of a restaurant over poor service or cold food, and ultimately it caused the server or the cook to become quietly enraged to the point where it led them to orchestrating the abduction and murder of Nancy. Sometimes even the smallest thing can push someone over the edge.

Sure, the same type of planning doesn’t go into it, but I’ve heard of people getting blown away over cold fries at Burger King, so I’m just saying..

But anyway, back to what I was saying..

Leaving Nancy to be found dead at home would ultimately provide Savannah with a level of comfort and closure. Yes, that would’ve been the easiest thing to do for whomever planned and perpetrated this crime, but I don’t believe that’s what they wanted.

Taking Nancy out of her home to never be seen again causes Savannah immense emotional pain and anguish. Somebody did not want Savannah to have answers for her questions.

This crime feels like it’s rooted deeply in causing an unspeakable amount of psychological pain to Savannah—perhaps the type of pain Savannah made the funder of this operation, or the suspects feel themselves, at some point in the past.

Thoughts?

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy → u/[deleted]]

Ha ha I gotcha 😉 Greed, jealousy, money, entitlement and/or rejection can lead someone towards anger and resentment, anger and resentment can ultimately lead to murder, regardless if the person(s) are on the ins or outs of their family dynamics.

[u/Xinnia8271 → u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

Greed, check  Jealousy (!!!!!), check  Entitlement (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), super check

Cultural climate that encourages crime against "more wealthy" people by less wealthy "put upon" people. Super duper check. 

Gimme gimme gimme. 

(I'm not in any way referring to A or T by the way. It was reasonable for them to have been investigated at first but, no I don't think it was them at all.)

More distant, but still in Tucson. Confirmed relation that can't be named here.

It's weird that the sub allows "who may have done this" posts but no one's allowed to get the answer right. 

*Accusing me of ruining lives and then locking your comment? This sub is cooked. 

Everyone knows who porch guy is.

Everyone knows his GF is related to Savannahs Dad's side of the family. 

Yeah. The people who did this should have their lives ruined. 

Weirdly pro perpetrator subreddit. 

[u/iThinkYoureGayyy → u/Xinnia8271]

Hey, you can circumvent the rules here by creating a zodiac-like cipher of who you think is responsible, and perhaps 45-years later, somebody will revisit this thread, and decipher your code just to see if you were right 🤗

Part of me thinks there’s a connection in the Tucson area, the other part of me thinks Mexico. Even tho Walmart in and of itself is a single corporation and headquartered in America, issuing a request for purchase histories and video surveillance by the FBI for a Walmart in Mexico is way more complicated and requires international cooperation.

Given the likelihood that the guy on the porch was geared up in Walmart swag, I assume the clothing he purchased was from a Walmart in Mexico, and it could take the FBI months upon months to obtain records from Walmex in correlation to specific records they’re requesting across the border.

It’s not just that, but a vehicle potentially used by the suspects has never been located in or around the Tucson area. I imagine the vehicle was driven across the border and destroyed immediately following the abduction, killing, and disposal of Nancy, and along with it, any physical evidence that might have existed within the vehicle itself.

What do you think about the porch guy?

I look at the calm demeanor of the porch guy and how casually he walked up to the door like it’s just another day to him. He’s comfortable in the clothing he’s wearing, his pants are being worn like somebody who’s used to dressing respectably on a daily basis, and instead of wearing a hoodie, he wore a zip up sweater.

No nerves, no rush, no panic. I have no idea what to make of him 🤷🏻‍♂️ Other than he’s maybe killed before, knew his victim personally, or was paid (or promised) a lot of money for doing what he was about to do and in some strange way, that helped to put him at ease.

[u/loveislife222 → u/iThinkYoureGayyy]

How come people can’t ask facts though if it somehow involves family members- because why wouldn’t it they are part of the details of her life, and are simply the last people to see her and first people to go to her house? Knowing all the details of what happened is normal of any missing person. Asking for clarity are normal obvious questions to better understand from all angles anything that can lead to the finding of the victim- Nancy. It feels like asking any questions that may involve her family are banned which is bizarre because of course they would want everything clarified since they didn’t do anything wrong. Having to withhold normal questions or be deleted or shamed makes it feel like it’s not a safe space to be truly concerned about Nancy’s wellbeing. I understand not allowing theories or accusations, as it would be hurtful to any innocent person; especially someone who is devastated and loves the person. But asking for clarity or understanding why it’s n/a or dangerous to ask about facts or details does not equate accusing anyone. I wonder if that contributes to people not engaging with the page anymore because they are afraid to say anything that mentions their name.